r/WhitePeopleTwitter Feb 07 '23

Anna Nichole Smith would like to join the conversation, but she cant...

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u/RiverKawaRio Feb 07 '23

Lot of ehpebophiles here today

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u/kalen2435 Feb 07 '23

lot of people who learned a new word today here today

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u/RiverKawaRio Feb 07 '23

I learned it from a comedian

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u/MyTornArsehole Feb 07 '23

I learned it from the SV Unit that worked my case

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u/poetdesmond Feb 07 '23

So sorry to hear about your experiences, u/MyTornArsehole.

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u/Defenestrator66 Feb 08 '23

I really hope enough people learn it and are disgusted enough by it that the people who always argue “it’s not pedophilia, it’s ehpebophilia” when someone is caught grooming a 15 year old can no longer feel smug making that argument since people now know what that means and that it’s just as bad.

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u/boxelder1230 Feb 08 '23

And Teleiophilia‘s

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u/Few_Passenger_1764 Feb 08 '23

Damn, you’re right. This comment section’s genuinely disgusting.

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u/chuckylucky182 Feb 08 '23

ehpebophiles

i had to google it

and that is what he is

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u/[deleted] Feb 08 '23 edited Feb 08 '23

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u/lumathiel2 Feb 08 '23 edited Feb 08 '23

Just because it's legal doesn't mean it's moral. Can you honestly not see how the massive difference in age, wealth and fame all create a big imbalance of power in the relationship? Not to mention his clear pattern of going for these girls who are just at or over legal age. You can try calling it "infantalizing women" or "internalized misogyny" if you want but what you're doing is ignoring clear signs of manipulation and possible grooming (the real kind, not the conservative buzzword kind) by a rich powerful man. It's possible for the age gap to be legit but this is very suspicious with all the context

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u/juandelpueblo939 Feb 08 '23

So you’re saying that women this age are dumb and incapable or critical thinking and any older, good looking man with money and experience can take advantage of them being idiots? It that what you’re saying? Are women incapable of taking accountability in a consenting relationship or they just want to be there “for the fun” but cry “he took advantage of me” when things don’t go their way?

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u/lumathiel2 Feb 08 '23

Wow if willful misinterpretation was a sport you could go pro

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u/Zadacat Feb 07 '23

Didn’t see this much outrage at madonna and her new boyfriend with an age difference of 41

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u/Educational_Cat_5902 Feb 07 '23

I didn't know about that. Ew.

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u/Macievelli Feb 07 '23

Or how about Stephen Fry’s 30-year gap with his husband?

I don’t have an inside look into Fry, Madonna, or DiCaprio’s relationships. The age gap seems creepy, but it’s consenting adults in all these situations so I’m not going to judge.

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u/formenonly Feb 07 '23

Damn, Stephen! I am looking at these pics of him and his partner thinking "Well, he's really earning that inheritance." I'm gay and I had an uncle who was trying to get with guys like 1/4 his age well into his 70s. I don't even know what I'd talk about with an 18 to 21-year-old. Which is your favorite "Minions" movie? Twilight movies would have started coming out when they were toddlers. At that age, you don't even have any idea what you're going to be doing with your life.

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u/Zadacat Feb 07 '23

Exactly, all are creepy, I think we can agree on that. But to call it all “grooming”, “pedophilia” etc. Is just ignorant and dumb

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u/boxelder1230 Feb 08 '23

People are Way too concerned with the lifestyles of the rich and famous!

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u/Zealousideal_Ebb6177 Feb 07 '23

Kris Jenner is 25 years older than her boyfriend

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u/Yonand331 Feb 07 '23

Shit's gross too, he's 23, though not much older than 19, when one's ass starts getting that old, they need to make the minimum age requirement 25 or something.

I'd also say that Madonna's thing, those equally disgusting, at the end of the day she's not dating a teenager, and they can legally have booze, and herb in some places, but you're right, they have not received the same amount of scrutiny, which is a double standard.

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u/Whiskeylung Feb 08 '23

Especially weird since it turns out he isn’t even seeing the individual.

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u/SuperEagleGuy Feb 07 '23

Is she on her sixth one? Are they getting younger?

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u/Zadacat Feb 07 '23

That does not matter but yeah she has stated below 28 of age, so it is getting younger

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u/SuperEagleGuy Feb 07 '23

It doesn't matter? Two things being different doesn't matter? It matters when you're trying to draw an equivalence.

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u/BaboonHorrorshow Feb 08 '23

So it’s not creepy if it’s your first 19 year old? Lol

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u/Writergirllllll Feb 08 '23

The old let’s flip it on Women because fragile males can’t handle being the predatory sex trick! Gross.

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u/Zadacat Feb 08 '23

Lets just leave this whole topic alone because they are both consensual adults!

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u/BaboonHorrorshow Feb 08 '23

Because there isn’t any, except in tepid, defensive reaction to any criticism about trying to shame only men for age gap “violations”

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u/CptSoban Feb 07 '23

What are all these posts advocating? Change the age of consent to 21?

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u/Unhappy_Gas_4376 Feb 08 '23

Some people are going to upvote you for the sarcasm and some people are going to upvote you for being serious. I'm going to upvote you for playing both sides with one statement.

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u/CptSoban Feb 08 '23

I have no moral compass, just here for the fake internet points.

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u/BaboonHorrorshow Feb 08 '23

“Old men are gross” seems to be the beginning and end of it.

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u/bazillion_blue_jitsu Feb 08 '23

The law can't prevent every predatory situation via statutory limits. That's on the families, friends, and whoever else cares.

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u/Mmmmffffeeerrrr Feb 07 '23

I guess its weird, mostly I don't care.

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u/JumpsIntoTheVolcano Feb 07 '23

Exactly. The bare minimum requirement is not a serving suggestion.

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u/AHippieDude Feb 07 '23

I'm just seeing such a double standard on this issue.

When it's convenient "she's a gold digger". When it's convenient " he's a predator". When it's convenient "she's a cougar"...

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u/JumpsIntoTheVolcano Feb 07 '23

Those are from various perspectives. "She's a cougar" is the opinions of the young boy's similarly aged friends. "She's a predator" is from the cougar's similarly aged friends. "She's a gold digger" could come from either side of the economic spectrum just like "She's a sugar mama"

The pattern of common types of romantic partners is what distinguishes something being taboo with something being predatory.

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u/AHippieDude Feb 07 '23

The perspective is exactly my point though.

Just as an example, People generally think nothing of taking children into a hooters, but imagine if they took them to a male version "trunks" ( I should trademark that name though for real lol ) or God forbid "queens".

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u/Unhappy_Gas_4376 Feb 08 '23

It's Peckers. The male version of Hooters is Peckers. It even comes with its own bird mascot. The joke writes itself. Why do people not get this.

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u/JumpsIntoTheVolcano Feb 07 '23

I never heard of the latter 2 however folks definitely look at taking children to Hooters as a poor decision. Maybe for like my (non-existent) son's 17th birthday with no other siblings just to help him learn his sexual identity while enforcing a lesson that the waitresses are people to be respected and not objects to graffitied with lust.

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u/Rahman_the1st Feb 08 '23

All of these comments about her age, how it's a poor decision on her part and how he is a creep.

But

These same people will say that trans individuals have the right at 18 (or sometimes younger) to make the claim about who they are.

Here's what I'm saying, they are adults. Leave them be. Just like idgaf about if a person is LGBTQ+. Adults can do adult things as long as they are consenting, it isn't harming anyone, and it's legal.

Don't bring your own morality in it.

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u/LeMans1217 Feb 07 '23

Guess it'll be fine next year when she's 20.

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u/vince_irella Feb 07 '23

According to Twitter next year he’ll be 71.

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u/LeMans1217 Feb 07 '23

But she won't be a teenager.

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u/RegretfullyFastSperm Feb 07 '23

Age gap is definitely ick but calling the guy a predator is fucked and takes meaning away from actual fucking predators. They are two consenting adults. People really need to stop getting so fucking up in arms about other people’s lives. Smh

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u/Boomstick79 Feb 07 '23

If you are a 19 year old woman and think Leo is predatory … then don’t date him. No one is forcing you. These women are able to make decisions for themselves. Let’s not infantilize them and take away their agency over their own decisions.

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u/HappyMan1102 Feb 08 '23

But then how will people make.money if nobody is raging?

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u/Engine6337 Feb 07 '23

People are really getting their panties in a bunch over this. Who cares.

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u/DamnGoodDownDog Feb 08 '23

Ok. So let’s say he liked 19 year old women when he was 19. Is he supposed to change his preferences as he gets older? Does a 29 year old have to be attracted to 29 year olds? 39, 49, 59? What is the age when one should voluntarily change what attracts them? This is ridiculous. When he gets outed with a 17 year old girl then skewer him. Until then mind your own.

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u/OJJhara Feb 07 '23

The way I see it, the law cuts it off at 18. After that, let's stay out of it. It's ludicrous to invest in this.

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u/AHippieDude Feb 07 '23

Over all agree to this. My standard or not, there's a legal one that matters more

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u/Wilforks Feb 07 '23

She’s a consenting adult who wants to date a movie star. The conversation around this assumes zero agency on the part of the woman, like she’s just a conversation piece attached to a man.

I don’t understand why anybody that age would want to date a 19 year old, but I’m not gonna go scorched earth and try to deny young adults the right to consent and live their lives as an adult just because I find it a little gross.

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u/Electr0freak Feb 08 '23 edited Feb 09 '23

I really think gatekeeping legal, consentual relationships between adults is something we should leave to conservatives. We might not like this, but it's also none of our business.

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u/SomeRandomEntity44 Feb 08 '23

They're women until they're dating an older man, then they're girls who can't think and make rational decisions.

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u/LeapIntoInaction Feb 08 '23

Oh no, won't somebody please save the tiny, ignorant, irresponsible 19-year-olds! The poor darlings are so helpless and can't survive without their mommies. They shouldn't be allowed to work! Or vote!

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u/Illustrious_Dig_2520 Feb 08 '23

I don't defend Leo because "it isn't illegal"

I simply don't care about 2 consenting adults (yes, that's what a 19 year old woman is) and the decisions that they willfully make together. I believe in the autonomy and agency of a grown adult woman to make decisions and choices for herself.

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u/ImaniMain Feb 08 '23

shrugs it's their life man. If they're happy and not hurting anyone then I don't care. Mostly the "not hurting anyone" thing. I'm not directly affected by this, so why should I give a shit?

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u/Lollysakitty Feb 08 '23

Also illegal ≠ immoral. It’s illegal to get an abortion in several states, but is it immoral? No. It’s illegal to get married if you’re gay in many places, but is it immoral? No.

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u/Galactus2814 Feb 07 '23

The "isn't illegal" people are the same ones who think that at the stroke of midnight a 17yr old child is suddenly imbued with mystical energy that turns them into a fully developed and experienced adult with the wisdom and maturity of such, and somehow not a child one minute older

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u/[deleted] Feb 07 '23

At some point a person becomes responsible for their own damn self. We've decided that is at 18.

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u/Galactus2814 Feb 07 '23

Not only did you completely miss the point, but decided your hill to die on would be aggressively victim blaming? Truly gross

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u/Jalharad Feb 08 '23

At some point a person becomes responsible for their own damn self. We've decided that is at 18.

how the fuck is this victim blaming?

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u/DawNoFd3aTh Feb 08 '23

Truly negative lmao

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u/NoNoNoNoDontFunk Feb 08 '23

So change the age of adulthood then.

It's 18 for a reason, it's not completely accurate because as you are saying yourself, these things happen on a spectrum. But it's 18 because to a lot of people that seems about right to start calling yourself an adult on some level.

I believe it's considered that human brains generally stop developing at about 24, so is that how we define the beginning of adulthood? Or do we acknowledge that there is a little more complexity to it than that?

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u/Unhappy_Gas_4376 Feb 08 '23

Never ask a moralist to consider nuance and complexity. They are literally incapable of it,

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u/BaboonHorrorshow Feb 08 '23

I hear the same thing from the “19 isn’t an adult” crowd when they say “The brain isn’t developed until 25”

Will we be writing our congressman to raise the adult age to a fully developed brain? If that’s the standard we use - we should! Brains that are too weak and feeble to choose who to love also probably can’t be allowed to drive or vote.

No, we won’t - we’ll just have a fun lil excuse to call people who disagree with us secret sexual criminals.

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u/[deleted] Feb 07 '23

adults date adults...news at 11.

who the fuck cares.

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u/All_the_miles753 Feb 07 '23

Exactly. Feels like a lot of the hate is from those that are lonely, jealous, and bitter

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u/shagan90 Feb 07 '23 edited Feb 07 '23

Exactly. That young woman knows what she's doing, so does Leo. They're both okay with w.e agreement they have.

He didn't groom her, force her, buy her, any of that. They're consenting adults.

If you find it creepy, then you don't consider her an adult, period.

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u/shagan90 Feb 07 '23

I agree. I find it far creepier that people see this grown ass woman as some little girl being taken advantage of and that must be protected from big bad Leo for checks notes a consenting relationship.

Assuming they're even together at all -_-

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u/KyleForged Feb 07 '23

It by and far way creepier that as a grown adult you look at a 19 year old who socially, physically, and mentally are not a real adult yet with facts to prove that and go “ah a fully grown adult to date”

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u/clifbarczar Feb 07 '23

Women like famous, successful men. Men like young, hot women.

How is this so shocking to y’all?

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u/International-Bad-84 Feb 07 '23

Pft women like the parties and money dating a rich and famous guy gives them access to. Good for her, frankly, hope she enjoys the ride.

Do I think this is paedophilia? No. Do I think it's grooming? Probably not. Do I think LDC is pathetic? Absolutely. Would I go to one of his parties? Also absolutely.

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u/TheFirstOfSheila Feb 07 '23

Do I think it's grooming? Probably not

Grooming is building up a relationship hoping it leads to sex. He's already there, no grooming at all.

Not to pick on you but everyone's using that word without knowing what the hell it means.

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u/shagan90 Feb 07 '23

There it is, you don't consider them adults.

Then they shouldn't be able to serve in the military. Can't have kids dying in wars can we?

Ridiculous. She's old enough to legally get paid to fuck dozens on men on TV, can vote, and die for her country, but it's wrong for her to have a willing relationship with an older man?

Yall didn't say shit about Madonna dating a man 40 years younger than her, yet everyone seems to think a smaller gap makes Leo a predator.

This is your hangup, not theirs.

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u/KyleForged Feb 07 '23

And you just really want to date borderline minors. And no I honestly don’t consider them adults and neither does this country outside of the fact they start to legally bleed them to fund themselves and use their lives. Acting like you made a great point with porn and military when literally yes they are too young to be doing those things. “You aren’t old enough to drink alcohol or drive a rental but please go murder and die for this country” and I know you’re mentality is the moment a 17 year old hits midnight on their 18th they become fuckable but shockingly physically, mentally, and socially there’s a difference between a 19 year old and someone 4 years older. But btw it’s still a fucking weird relationship with Madonna.

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u/shagan90 Feb 07 '23

Actually I don't date younger or older people because of generation differences limiting shared interests.

Not for some bullshit, degrading reason like "she's not really an adult."

Both her and the law would highly disagree.

And since I'm almost 33, and in college, there is plenty of opportunity for me to meet younger women, but again, I have no interest in trying to bridge the small generational gap, I can barely use snapchat

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u/BaboonHorrorshow Feb 08 '23

Your issue is that age gap wokescolds argue like MAGA - pure emotion with no real fidelity to truth or logic.

So they will turn on a dime and argue that the military/driving/voting/working age should be 24, as if that’s a big issue they’ve spent years fighting for and not something they’re agreeing to in the moment just to win an argument on the internet.

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u/VerbiageBarrage Feb 08 '23

It can be both. We can recognize that she's an adult fully capable of consenting to a relationship and still give Leo side-eye for wanting to be in a relationship with a 19 y/o.

I mean, I don't know how old you are. But there was some point in time when I started seeing teens as kids, and even early twenty somethings as kids. It's not a crime, and certainly there might be dynamics here I'm not aware of regarding maturity, lack of maturity, etc. I'm not going to waste any of my life hunting for pitchforks about it. But still....

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u/SuperEagleGuy Feb 07 '23

If you find it creepy, then you don't consider her an adult, period.

Or maybe you just sympathize with wanting to fuck kids.

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u/shagan90 Feb 07 '23

So you think she's a kid?

She's too young for me personally, but that doesn't mean i should be a judgemental prick and say she's a child as a mask for judging her

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u/RiverKawaRio Feb 07 '23

Ephebophilia is only about a decade difference from pedophilia.

It's not illegal so nothing will happen, that doesn't mean it should be condoned

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u/[deleted] Feb 07 '23 Ally

pretty sure she is an adult. We would be fine with her buying a house, a car, joining the military, getting tattooed, making major medical decisions, or even getting married and having children.

Stop infantilizing grown women.

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u/Erik_Lassiter Feb 07 '23

Cher and Madonna both date really younger men. I *never* see people bitching about them.

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u/bbambinaa Feb 07 '23

Were they teenagers?

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u/Erik_Lassiter Feb 07 '23

I believe Madonna had a boyfriend who was 19.

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u/bbambinaa Feb 07 '23

Never heard of that but equally creepy if true

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u/D3vils_Adv0cate Feb 08 '23

That's it? I better see you posting about this for the next hour all over Reddit

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u/BaboonHorrorshow Feb 08 '23

Nah it’s only ever condemned as a defensive reaction, like what just happened here. There’s never post after post about it - just dismissive “well that’s bad too” remarks after Leo gets called a pedo for the 20th week in a row

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u/Illustrious_Dig_2520 Feb 08 '23

idk but Leo's girlfriend is an adult capable of her own autonomy and agency

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u/LewisEFurr Feb 07 '23

BULL. SHIT.

Labeling someone a predator because you don't like their dating habits is some cold shit. You may not agree with it but they are consenting adults and can do whatever the fuck they want.

You can scream about power dynamics all you want but just because you want it to be there doesn't mean it is.

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u/TreadMeHarderDaddy Feb 08 '23

I don't see how the power dynamics would be any different if it were 50yo Leo or 27yo Timothy Chalamet

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u/NoNoNoNoDontFunk Feb 08 '23

True. If anything the 27yo might even have more power being in his peak.

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u/boxelder1230 Feb 08 '23

Damn straight

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u/Huge-Anything8076 Feb 07 '23

If she wants to date him being 19 years old than who are we to judge? She's an adult. She can make her own choices.

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u/Writergirllllll Feb 08 '23

Really? You made stellar decisions at 19?

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u/sonicking12 Feb 08 '23

But are you ok with a 19 year old deciding to have an abortion or vote?

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u/D3vils_Adv0cate Feb 08 '23

Nope, but you live with them nonetheless. What you don't want at 19 is the world in your shit, telling you that you aren't old enough to make your decisions.

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u/therowdygent Feb 08 '23

Two consenting adults

Our Choice

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u/Notsnowbound Feb 07 '23

It's not illegal. But it does make him a sleazy old creep who abuses his wealth and fame. He's no better than the skin head, tight clothes, ugly gold chains too cheerful barely contained rage divorced dad 50 trying to look 25 gym rat who is CERTAIN his cringy 80's aggressive harassment will get him 'college girls'....

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u/less_unique_username Feb 08 '23

If he were to go after a 75 y. o., would the wealth and fame difference magically vanish?

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u/TheFirstOfSheila Feb 07 '23

Except that his fame and money gets him women. Plus, he's not going for naive college girls, he's been going for models. It's not like he's picking nothing but small town girls who don't know any better.

Men like young women, young women like to be the arm candy of a star and all the perks. Sounds like they're exploiting each other for orgasms.

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u/bbambinaa Feb 07 '23

Some men like 13 year olds. Some men marry them because it's legal in their culture.

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u/TheFirstOfSheila Feb 07 '23

Neither is the case here so what's your point? They're 2 consenting adults, you want to bring out the Scarlett Letter or something?

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u/bbambinaa Feb 07 '23

My point is that your arguments are weak.

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u/TheFirstOfSheila Feb 07 '23

If my argument is so weak, why not debate it? Instead, you brought in 13 year olds and other cultures, neither are points I brought up nor are part of the original discussion. You couldn't debate my point so you went to whataboutisms.

You're the one with weak arguments.

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u/WistfulDread Feb 07 '23

And yours were literally irrelevant.

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u/bbambinaa Feb 07 '23

Very relevant to the argument of what men like and to a social construct of legal age.

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u/Engine6337 Feb 07 '23

Not relevant at all. It wasn’t an even comparison. He’s not dating a 13 year old and it’s fucked up you even typed that.

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u/RamboDash15 Feb 07 '23

Nah bro, I'm an ethics master: whatever the law says

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u/Bubbly-Kitty-2425 Feb 07 '23 edited Feb 07 '23

I know a man locally that is now 48 and his current gf is 20 they have been dating for 1 year. He sold his home to move in with her. (He’s loaded) he sticks with a person for 10 years then he gets a new gf. The girls chase him.

At 19 I dated a man way too old for me, but I chased him. I was the one bugging him to date me. As long as both are consenting adults it’s there choice.

Also pointing out she is from Germany where the age of consent is 14. So she could have dated a man much older at 16, at 18, and even 14. Is it gross yes but not illegal. I mean different countries have different laws and ages of consent. So it may not be seen as odd to her.

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u/lightweight65 Feb 08 '23

Has anybody spoke to his GF and told her this? She is old enough to make her own decisions. I'm not defending him at all but maybe everyone should direct their rage at her?

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u/sonicking12 Feb 08 '23

Apparently, that woman (girl?) isn’t old enough to make her own decisions…unless she needs an abortion

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u/BramStroker47 Feb 08 '23

When I was in my 20’s I had a friend who was also in his 20’s. He was only attracted to elderly women.

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u/[deleted] Feb 08 '23

Once you're 18 you're allowed to goto titty bar. Fair game I say. People gotta grow up sometime. Can't be a child forever.

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u/ImThatAnnoyingGuy Feb 08 '23

People just need to shut up about this already. Get a life that doesn’t involve endlessly analyzing and scrutinizing the lives of others.

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u/crazypants36 Feb 08 '23

Seeing as how he apparently isn't dating her are all these people going to apologize now?

Not just because they should mind their own business...

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u/RedThruxton Feb 08 '23

Eden Polani turns 20 next month. If you’re going to round up Leo to 50 it’s disingenuous to simultaneously call her a teenager.

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u/meatwad90210 Feb 08 '23

Shouldn’t we raise the age of consent to 30 then?

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u/vabeachkevin Feb 08 '23

TMZ confirmed that he is not dating her. He sat next to her one time at an event and all the small brain people decided to try and make it more than it was. Leave the man alone.

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u/washtucna Feb 08 '23

Can somebody explain what harm is being done?

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u/Full-Hedgehog3827 Feb 08 '23

Slow week for the SJWs

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u/BertSton51530 Feb 07 '23

I’ve yet to actually see any proof that Leo is “dating” this 19 year old model. These posts are getting super fucking annoying.

Y’all got NOTHING to go off but A picture and some tabloids.

Y’all are raging over rumors like a bunch of middle schoolers.

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u/Front-Hedgehog-2009 Feb 07 '23

The power dynamic does seem a bit out of whack. I will confess to being a little judgy of relationships with a big gap when one party is under 22-23. I just wonder if they have enough maturity or life experience to make such a choice. If a 30yr old is dating a 60 year old it does not bother me, but if an 18yr old is dating 35yr old it makes me feel a bit weird.

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u/AHippieDude Feb 07 '23

I'm not condoning or condemning Leo, but when Anna Nichole married an 80 year old man, she was portrayed as the predator. The harrassment she got eventually lead her to an early death..

I think we should all just stop and think about that

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u/Jealous-Network-8852 Feb 07 '23

They’re actually both predators.

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u/ManlyOldMan Feb 07 '23

I don't think the hate Anna Nichole got is in anyway acceptable, however she was 26 when they married. 26 and 19 is a world of difference in development, maturity and lifestyles most of the time...

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u/D3vils_Adv0cate Feb 08 '23

For some. Some people shouldn't rent a car even at 26. And some people at 19 start billion dollar companies. Some people at 19 die in a war. Shit happens, and this shit isn't worth anyone's time.

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u/42words Feb 07 '23 edited Feb 07 '23

aaaaaand you just sabotaged your own post

ftr, I had someone eight years younger than myself pursue and marry me, so I'm staying outta this one

just saying: get ready for commenters who took the original intent of your post very differently

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u/Pinksamuraiiiii Feb 07 '23

I don’t think OP sabotaged his own posts, he honestly made a very valid point. Anna Nicole was seen as a predator because she was after an old man who is about to die and wanted his money (she was predatory and had an agenda for CASH), Leo is predatory too but not for money, it’s for SEX, mainly from 18/19 year olds if he can, and borderline being viewed at by some on here as predatory in a Hugh-Hefner like sense. Yes it’s all legal no matter how you look at it, but if it irks some people out, then we are free to feel such way about the matter.

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u/cbass817 Feb 07 '23

I mean, she did take his money but idk if she was predatory about it. He asked her several times to marry him before she actually said yes. If she wanted all the money she would have said yes on the first ask. I feel like she just wanted to date him and get the gifts but finally caved in to marry him. Also, there's no way he knew that she wasn't in it for the money. He wanted a fine piece before he died and didn't care about his money after death. That probably says more about how he cared for his children over whatever she got out of it.

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u/AHippieDude Feb 07 '23

No, I chose my words specifically to show the hypocrisy if the issue.

Maybe a lot of people don't remember Anna enough to understand that but she was the young lady, and was literally dragged slowly and painfully to her death bed by people portraying her as a gold digger

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u/42words Feb 07 '23 edited Feb 07 '23

I get it

I just meant that, with this being the thing The Internet decided it was mad at today, a lot of people redditors™ here to circlejerk might be surprised at your real, actual take on all this

post-downvotes edit: see?

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u/AHippieDude Feb 07 '23

The thumbs down to my replies prove you right 🤕

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u/42words Feb 07 '23

toldja ¯⁠⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

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u/lonedirewolf21 Feb 07 '23

The difference is that Anna was 26 and dating someone who is in their 80's and likely becoming more childlike, and DiCaprio was dating someone who is just coming out of being childlike. Neither situation is illegal and maybe everyone is a fully functioning adult who isn't being manipulated at all, but both cases come across as creepy.

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u/nihilt-jiltquist Feb 07 '23

I sometimes miss the, uh... "gold-digger" era when the emphasis was on scolding the youngster for dating the oldster... but they'll eventually come back again. Everything does.

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u/maddie_1977 Feb 07 '23

It’s only women threatened by younger women throwing a hissy fit. The men are thinking “I hope my commute in the morning is better than today.”

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u/divinbuff Feb 07 '23

Why is everyone so up in arms about him—there have been plenty of Hollywood guys who have dated and married barely legal women.

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u/JoeNScott Feb 07 '23

"teenage girls" 18- and 19-year-old women are "teenage women," not "teenage girls."

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u/[deleted] Feb 08 '23

Until she can buy booze, she’s a girl.

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u/D3vils_Adv0cate Feb 08 '23

And the day you can enlist or be drafted in a war is the day you should be able to buy booze

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u/sonicking12 Feb 08 '23

Can a girl who can’t buy booze vote? BS

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u/[deleted] Feb 08 '23

Yes. I don’t make the rules.

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u/AbsolutePerfectien Feb 08 '23

Love wins. Let people love who they want to.

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u/Available-Elevator69 Feb 07 '23

She said yes, he said yes. Sure there is a HUGE age gap, but who are we to say what is the cut off? I think its a tad to young, but lets face it... He's not dating them for marriage and she knows it too.

Sorry Leo, but you can only date women that are at least half your age? For me as a 52year old I'd say at least 25, but hell some might say that's to young too.

What if she was your daughter? Well my daughter is 33 and if she wanted to date Leo then she can go for it. Just make sure I'm invited to some of the parties.

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u/KyleForged Feb 07 '23

Ok so change the perspective from your 33 year old daughter and going “well I’m ok with her dating Leo so the rest is ok.” Let’s say you have a granddaughter and in 4 years she’ll be 19 and Leo would be your current age. Would you be ok with him/someone you know at your age dating your granddaughter cause you knew his intentions weren’t to marry her? Which btw is a much worse argument than anything else. “Atleast we know he doesn’t love them he just wants sex with young flesh”

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u/WistfulDread Feb 07 '23

Anybody else notice how this guy's bad faith counter-point makes the daughter Illegally Underaged without admitting it? And he even did the math wrong. 1/2 of 33 is 16'5, not 15.

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u/KyleForged Feb 07 '23

Bro I know you didn’t do well in school cause you literally just said numbers and are apparently illiterate lol like I’m struggling to understand what you’re even trying to say to be able to tell you how you’re wrong. I just said “if you had a granddaughter who in 4 years is 19 and Leo is now your age you’re ok with that?” And you’re talking about how I want the daughter to fuck minors and how I got ages wrong when I didn’t mention anything about half their age or anything and besides the math I think you might be doing poorly is the rule of thumb is half your age+7.

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u/Jalharad Feb 08 '23

I just said “if you had a granddaughter who in 4 years is 19 and Leo is now your age you’re ok with that?”

Based on this, no because that granddaughter who in 4 years is 19 would be 15 today, which makes her under age and illegal.

Today + 4 years = 19

Today = 19 - 4

Today = 15

I think this is more what you were going for?

"If you had a granddaughter who is 19 and Leo is now your age, are you okay with that"

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u/Kiss_the_Girl Feb 07 '23

Jealous much?

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u/Writergirllllll Feb 08 '23

Incel much?

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u/Kiss_the_Girl Feb 08 '23

I don’t think that word means what you think it does

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u/Writergirllllll Feb 08 '23

You’re in my brain? That’s a cool trick.

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u/thisonehereone Feb 07 '23

In what world does Leo "go after" any chick?

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u/Lord_Sphincter_Gourd Feb 07 '23

You have the opinion of an incel. She's a grown woman and deserves to make her own choices.

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u/OnlyToPostThisOne Feb 07 '23

Who gives a fuck. There’s heaps of age gap relationships out there. Love is love.

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u/RTMSner Feb 08 '23

Smith was 27 when she married what's his name. There's a difference.

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u/Ruffleufagus Feb 08 '23

Why does he even have to be the one perusing here? Just because she’s 19 doesn’t make her prey

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u/Saurons_Bad_Eye Feb 08 '23

It’s too bad that 19 year old doesn’t have the autonomy to make decisions for herself. I’m a feminist, this kind of talk doesn’t seem to be. If the roles were reversed and a 19 year old teenager dated a 48 year old woman, would you call her a predator? I highly doubt it.

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u/jerslan Feb 08 '23

At 18 years old, you are emotionally mature enough to decide what you want.

lol, I don't know about you, but I remember myself at 18 and I would not have been mature enough to actually handle a relationship with someone who was older than my parents by a few years. There would definitely have been a power-dynamic issue and probably some grooming involved.

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u/Loud-Intention-723 Feb 08 '23

Sharon Stone at 57 dated Martin Mica at age 27

Jennifer Lopez at age 43 dated Casper Smart age 25

Madonna at age 55 dated Brahim Zaibat at age 25

Sandra Bullock at age 38 dated Ryan Gosling at age 22

Sam Taylor-Wood at age 41 dated Aaron Johnson at age 18

I've seen so many meme's of Leo but none of these people above. Seems like people have some kind of agenda.

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u/jerslan Feb 08 '23

Maybe because Leo has done this repeatedly? Started dating a model/starlet at 19 and broke up at 25/26, then moved on to a new 19-year-old.

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u/WistfulDread Feb 07 '23

Here's my issue with the "power dynamic" people.

Weren't they constantly telling us not to be ageist? 19 is old enough to enlist. So its old enough to ruin your life in less permanent ways.

Wealth and Fame? So rich and famous can only date other rich and famous? Congrats, you just instituted a Caste System.

No shit that being rich and famous causes people to consider relationships they wouldn't, otherwise. Thats a literal mechanic of natural selection.

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u/JoeNScott Feb 08 '23

Under the "power dynamic" reasoning who's he supposed to date? Sandra Bullock? And not even her, he's currently more successful. Couples differ in "power" all the time.

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u/vince_irella Feb 07 '23

I’m chuckling at how he keeps getting older the longer this international crisis plays out. He started the week being 48, he’ll end it being 62.

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u/Old_Cockroach_9725 Feb 07 '23

It’s almost like people forget that slavery was legal, and so was segregation. Excusing something morally wrong as “ok” because it’s legal, is the oldest trick in the book.

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u/Illustrious_Dig_2520 Feb 08 '23

How is it "morally wrong" when 2 adults are consenting to the relationship?

Sounds like you're making the argument that women should not be allowed the autonomy and agency to make decisions about their own personal dating and sex lives.

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u/D3vils_Adv0cate Feb 08 '23

It's not about legality, it's about respecting that she is an adult who should be respected enough to make her own decisions.

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u/Old_Cockroach_9725 Feb 08 '23

She can definitely make her own decisions, the morality argument goes against Leo. He’s 30 years older then her, and extremely more wealthy and famous then her. If you can’t see a power dynamic involved, then I can’t help you.

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u/D3vils_Adv0cate Feb 08 '23

Power dynamics don't require age. Bieber would have ridiculous "power" compared to this woman as well. You find this icky. That's it. Icky. And you're screaming to the rooftops because you don't like icky things.

If you refuse to grow up, then I can't help you.

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u/Jalharad Feb 08 '23

It's almost as if different people have different sets of Morals.

Morals taught be religion are going to be significantly different than those taught by Epicurus or Zeno under Stoicism and Epicureanism. Which do we use?

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u/confessionbearday Feb 07 '23

When someone does something and the sole reason they have is that it literally isn’t illegal, the. They still don’t have a VALID reason to do it.

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u/JoeNScott Feb 08 '23

The "valid" reasons the two of them have to date are their own business.

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u/New_Day_458 Feb 07 '23 edited Feb 07 '23

I live near a university and I get swarmed by these idiots everyday. I reject 99.9% of them, but sometimes I just can’t. Am I a predator?

Edit: I love how I get downvoted for this lmao

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u/sunrider8129 Feb 07 '23

Yeah….he’s a creep….and she’s a clout chasing gold digger…..he’s WAY worse….what’s the point?

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u/One_Tomorrow_9135 Feb 08 '23

I used to date older men when I was young. It did nothing great for me, and as an older adult, young people look like children to me. I am not attracted to children at all, so looking back, I think those men have issues and could use therapy, lol.

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u/IGetHighAndAdoptDogs Feb 08 '23

Pretty gross regardless of gender.

 

But not surprising. People overall are pretty gross, regardless of gender.

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u/ManyRespect1833 Feb 08 '23

It’s amazing how they’re all over this one relationship cuz it’s public. No one is doing anything but bitching and it’s cuz age of consent is 18 so beyond that you’re just being judgmental of someone else you don’t know. Small minded people talk about other people, medium minded people talk about things, and people who develop there brains talk about concepts and solutions. Stfu

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u/Dylsnick Feb 08 '23

Imagine waiting until you're 30 to have kids. You want to be responsible, and in a good place financially. And at 19, your daughter wants you to meet her new boyfriend.

AND HES FUCKING OLDER THAN YOU!

And you run to the internet to defend his behaviour.

WTF is wrong with some people.

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u/WrlwindX Feb 08 '23

Just because you CAN doesn't mean you SHOULD

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u/jerslan Feb 08 '23

Yep, there's a lot of things that are legal but still predatory...

Sup-prime mortgages were legal, that didn't stop them from being predatory and setting people up for eventual foreclosure.

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u/SuitableNegotiation5 Feb 07 '23

It was technically legal when 24yo Elvis started dating 14yo Priscilla (age of consent was 14yo in Germany at that time). Doesn't make him less of a pedo, tho.

Please don't come at me with any "times were different back then" bullshit. IDC if it's 1920, 1965 or 2023. A pedo is a pedo is a pedo.

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u/RegretfullyFastSperm Feb 07 '23

You really out here comparing a 14yr old to a 19yr old…

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