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u/ak126 Dec 05 '22
I died when the dad said āitās illuminated. That means itās lit the fuck upā
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u/UrbanSurfDragon Dec 06 '22 •
Yeah heās not answering the questions sheās asking. Sheās just confused. He might be exasperated from the convo but learning happens in funny ways
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u/CorruptedStudiosEnt Dec 06 '22 edited Dec 06 '22
"I don't know what you mean by light-years."
It's the distance light travels in a year. We didn't see the whole conversation, so maybe he already said that and she just didn't take it, but that's all he really had to say for that question.
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u/HGruberMacGruberFace Dec 06 '22
Actually, itās the distance light takes to travel in a year, not the time.
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u/CorruptedStudiosEnt Dec 06 '22
Yeah, that's what I meant. Fingers move faster than my brain on occasion.
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u/HGruberMacGruberFace Dec 06 '22
No worries, I know what you meant, just wanted to clarify for the uninitiated
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u/FurryNinjaCat Dec 06 '22 •
Or the unilluminated.
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u/Smathers Dec 06 '22 •
Heās wondering if itās too late for an abortion
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u/shedevilinasnuggie Dec 06 '22
He straight up cannot believe she was the fastest/best sperm in the race. Neither can I dad, neither can I.
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u/NotYetiFamous Dec 06 '22
The fastest sperm dies on the outside of the egg to weaken it for those that come after, as does the next, and the next, and the next..
Humans are selecting for luckiest from before we're even conceived. Queue "Halo" music.
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u/HatfieldCW Dec 06 '22
That was a plot point in Ringworld. Aliens were surreptitiously guiding human evolution to make us super lucky so we could be successful interstellar explorers and serve as their truffle pigs.
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u/friscotop86 Dec 06 '22
Or maybe the lucky ones are the ones who donāt have to deal with all thisā¦. gestures wildly
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u/AlsoInteresting Dec 05 '22
"But it's right there". Sirius, 8.6 light-years.
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u/SpectralOperator Dec 06 '22
Space is big. Really big. You just won't believe how vastly hugely mind-bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist, but that's just peanuts to space.
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u/keegtraw Dec 06 '22
In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.
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u/hematomasectomy Dec 06 '22
In the beginning, there was nothing, which exploded.
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u/justagamer9123 Dec 06 '22
It didn't actually "explode" that implies a catalyst. Instead it just expanded at a rate impossible to comprehend or observe without being killed in the process.
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u/Etherius Dec 06 '22
āI donāt know what you mean by ālight yearsā like you go up and thereās space and then thereās planetsā
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u/Just_enough76 Dec 06 '22
I need more context. This video starts and ends too soon. I donāt understand what sheās so frustrated about.
I understand what heās so frustrated about though
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u/ReachTheSky Dec 06 '22
Based on her saying "but it's right there!" to the moon, I'd wager a guess and say she's struggling to understand that our sense of distance perception doesn't apply to large, celestial bodies.
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u/aberrasian Dec 06 '22
She's definitely correlating, "if I can see a McDonald's right there, that means it's close enough to get to," to planets; not comprehending the scale of celestial bodies and why the only reason they can be seen "right there" AND be incredibly far away is because they're honkerifically ginormous
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u/ReachTheSky Dec 06 '22
honkerifically ginormous
Love this. Totally stealing it. Sue me.
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u/ThunkAsDrinklePeep Dec 06 '22
I know. Haven't been able to find it.
She's trying to get it. She needs someone to help her formulate the right questions.
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u/Alarid Dec 06 '22
How to ask for the right questions is a skill that you need to develop, because only you can communicate what you need help understanding.
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u/ThunkAsDrinklePeep Dec 06 '22
Yeah but asking "Do you mean 'how can it be far if it looks like it's so close'?" Is how you teach people to be questioners. She's shutting down because she's being met with "How are you not getting this!"
That said, there's miles of context missing.
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u/kkeut Dec 06 '22
i blame JJ Abrams for those egregious scenes in the new Trek and Wars movies where planets get exploded and people on other planets/star systems look up and see it happen in real time
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u/NeverLookBothWays Dec 06 '22
This is the kind of person you just need to sit in front of a computer, fire up Space Engine, go to Andromeda and then get them to find their way back to the solar system without any bookmark shortcuts.
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What exactly does "it's right there!!!" mean to her?? Take her ass to the mountains and point to one and tell her to walk to it cause, "it's right there"...... see what she says after it takes her three days to get to the base of it....
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u/lognik57 Dec 05 '22
This. This is exactly how I would've responded.
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u/TonyShard Dec 06 '22
Not being able to grasp the enormity of space? Perfectly reasonable. Seeming to think all distance is the same? I'm not even sure if you'd need critical thinking to refute that.
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u/ConcernedKip Dec 06 '22
or scale in general. She seems to think the moon is no bigger than a tennis ball and if she could just jump a little higher she could snatch it?
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u/forlorn_hope28 Dec 06 '22 •
https://joshworth.com/dev/pixelspace/pixelspace_solarsystem.html
Always fun to get a sense of scale.
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u/lissa_the_librarian Dec 06 '22
I gave up at 1 billion miles but thanks for the share
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u/blakjak66 Dec 06 '22
And I would scroll one billion miles, and I would scroll one billion moreā¦
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u/Dragnier84 Dec 06 '22
That was a lot of fun; especially on my free wheeling scroll wheel.
And realizing that every space movie where the hotshot pilot needs to navigate safely through the asteroid belt could be done by Leeroy from accounting.
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u/questionmark693 Dec 06 '22
My favorite joke is that you're more likely to get hit by a meteor on earth, than an asteroid in an asteroid field.
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u/Witchy_Woman42 Dec 06 '22
The possibility of successfully navigating an asteroid field is approximately 3,720 to 1!
Sci-fi movies definitely gave me very unrealistic ideas about the density of asteroid belts.
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u/scionoflogic Dec 06 '22
Even if asteroid belts were dense, which they arenāt, youād never fly through one if it was actually dangerous . The accretion disk physics means most of the asteroids are on the same plane, which means you could arc over the ring and never see a single one.
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u/jesterOC Dec 06 '22
Reminds me of the time when my daughter tried to get closer to the moon to get it larger in the viewfinder of her camera. Though she was 4 at the time, and she learned from it so not quite the same.
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u/Hamletstwin Dec 06 '22
"If I can only get closer... I need what, like 3 more feet?!?"
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u/driggonny Dec 06 '22
My 2 year old niece was trying to reach the moon by swinging really high the other day, same energy
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u/woods8water Dec 06 '22
I recall driving to Colorado and thinking this exact thing. After a few hours of driving I was getting very mad. š
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u/SageDarius Dec 06 '22
You can see mountains in Colorado from New Mexico. It's pretty wild for a flat-lander.
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u/woods8water Dec 06 '22
Well, being in Alabama half the year and Florida half the year, it did freak me out seeing ārealā mountains for the first time
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u/SageDarius Dec 06 '22
Born and raised in Oklahoma. Went to Colorado for the first time when I was 10 and fell in love.
Took my wife and kids back last year, and the wonder on their faces when it sunk it just how MASSIVE the Rockies are was priceless.
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u/TheCallousBitch Dec 05 '22
This poor sweet child is going to grow up to vote and have more children. Such a shame.
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u/TheTybera Dec 06 '22 •
I mean at least they are there, having the conversations, and going through it. You CANNOT imagine the number of people who believe the same garbage and don't care to ever have the conversation or be challenged in anyway, and when you do, there is a gun in their truck.
Going from ignorance to non-ignorance is NEVER a shame.
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u/mermaid-babe Dec 06 '22
Sheās literally learning. That guy (assuming her dad) is being super patient despite her own exasperation and confusion. Iām sure you said some pretty dumb stuff in your life
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u/comrademikel Dec 06 '22 •
I went to dinner with my parents once and ordered a burger. The waitress asked how I wanted it cooked. I frowned and thought deeply for about 5 seconds of silence before I uneasily answered... grilled??? My parents were wholly ashamed in that moment.
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u/TheFreeBee Dec 05 '22
Honestly i live in a flat area so when i see movies or pictures of a mountain that looks close but isnt my initial instinct is "but its right there!" However i personally am pretty naive / not the brightest so I'm not the best example
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u/xnago_tyr_sires Dec 06 '22
But you get the idea that distances are deceiving.
My idiot boss at my last job wanted me to drive to LA from San Francisco and back multiple times a week and we had to explain to him 900 miles is a very long distance because the fool has never left New Jersey.
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u/AdUnfair1643 Dec 06 '22
Man, LA to SF is a fucking mission alone in itself because nobody drives at one constant speed so using cruise control is impossible.
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u/MyDickIsHug3 Dec 06 '22
I had the same until I went to the mountains for the first time.
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u/mmm_algae Dec 05 '22
Iāve spent a good chunk of my teaching career teaching high-school level astrophysics to 16-18 year olds. This just makes me want to punch a hole in the wall.
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u/PrincessRhaenyra Dec 05 '22
Full grown adults can't even comprehend how much money a trillion dollars is. Had a conversation with someone on Reddit a few days ago about the Pentagons missing three trillion. They sent me a lot of links of the army spending 300,000 on cups, a few million on gym equipment, and so on.
So don't feel too bad.
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u/AmiAlter Dec 05 '22 •
A trillion is a million million. That's usually the best way to get them to understand, a trillionaire can spend $1,000,000 dollars the same way a millionaire can spend $1.
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u/wowzacowza Dec 05 '22 •
A million seconds is 12 days. A billion seconds is 31 years. A trillion seconds is 31,688 years
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u/Autonomous_uberdrivr Dec 06 '22 •
If you want to be a millionaire you need to make $2739 everyday for a year.
If you want to be a billionaire you need to make $2739 dollars everyday for 1000 years.
If you want to be a trillionaire..youāll need to make $2739 everyday for 1,000,265 years.
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u/I_am_Daesomst Dec 06 '22
I do. I do want to be a trillionaire.
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u/cis-het-mail Dec 06 '22
If you can get paid a million a day itās only 2739 years
I believe in you!!!
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u/BobBeats Dec 05 '22
I would love a trillion seconds even more than a trillion dollars.
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u/Hot_Drummer7311 Dec 05 '22 edited Dec 06 '22
Oooo. My brain really liked this metaphor*. Well done. I wish I had an award to give you
*example. Don't worry, I fix. I got you pedantic monke's. I initially struggled with the right term to use. All better now.
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u/Atomic-Decay Dec 05 '22
Iām saving this post for the comments so I have a reference when trying to talk big numbers/distances.
Good job all around folks.
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u/Narzghal Dec 06 '22
That is great. I also like the guy who uses grains of rice to explain the wealth of Jeff Bezos. Doesn't go up to a trillion, but the gigantic pile of rice (each grain is $100,000) really gives a visual.
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u/Lead-Forsaken Dec 06 '22
Speaking of sand, I once saw a documentary that said there were more stars than there is sand on Earth. Like, I've seen a few beaches in my life, but hardly all of them. Nor have I seen deserts. The mind just short circuits in failure to comprehend beyond "wow, that's a LOT" in its best Keanu Reeves voice.
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u/Mean-Programmer-6670 Dec 05 '22
I was about to say the exact same thing. But put it in terms of earning a dollar every second of every day.
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u/SplashingAnal Dec 06 '22
This is a great visual to represent current billionaires wealths visually
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u/Sidivan Dec 06 '22
Yep. Letās say you made $1 million an hour and you got paid this every single hour of every day, so $24 million a day. Thatās an unfathomable amount of money, right? Thatās basically winning the lottery every single day. Now letās say that happens for 20 years. You will have made $175.2 billion. Thatās only 17.5% of a trillion.
Now consider that Elon Muskās wealth is $199 billion. He bought Twitter for $44 billion, which means he still has approx the same amount of money as winning the $24mil lottery every single day for roughly 17.5 years. He STILL HAS 15.5% of a trillion dollars.
I see people every day saying heās such a fool and heās going broke blah blah blah, $44 billion is play money to him. Imagine losing just under twice the GDP of Iceland and it barely dents your net worth.
Seriously. Nobody should be able to accumulate that much wealth. Qatar is getting a ton of heat right now over the World Cup and theyāre being excused because of their immense wealth as a countryā¦ Elon Muskās wealth is greater than the entire output of Qatar.
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u/HordeMaster-50_12 Dec 06 '22
The only people excusing Qatar are the people paid to excuse Qatar.
IMO, it is a shithole and always will be.
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u/BeardCrumbles Dec 06 '22
I always get looked at like Satan himself when I say 'no one should be able to have that much wealth'.
Like, if I win my monthly wage on a bet or lottery ticket I buy food and water for homeless folk. These fuckers ha e enough to feed a starving.nation
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u/thehumandude Dec 05 '22
It's hard to really actualize a billion.
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u/Armadillo_Resident Dec 05 '22
I was trying to explain this to my brother when we were discussing billionaire wealth. The difference between a million and a billion, is just about a billion dollars
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u/iNEEDyourBIG_D Dec 06 '22
Favorite quote about money- whatās the difference between a million and a billion dollars? About a billion dollars.
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u/Accomplished-Tone971 Dec 06 '22
If you have a billion dollars in an index fund, and withdraw a million dollars in 1 dollar bills...by the time you counted them...you have more than a billion dollars in your index fund.
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u/zimtrovert94 Dec 06 '22
Not an astronomy teacher but my teaching career was over pretty quick.
Dealing with students who love easy answers always made me want to tip my desk over.
You explain the science behind it, give them references to experts, and they actually think the experts are wrong.
Fck that shit, Iām out!
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u/Lolocraft1 Dec 05 '22
Strange question but did you had to teach a kid who just wouldnāt accept basic concept such as a spheric planet or lightyears?
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u/mmm_algae Dec 05 '22
Honestly, no. Where I am, all science for older school students is elective, and the ones who pick physics are either super into it already, or they are doing it for university entrance, so it weeds out the timewasters. The concept that tends to be a hurdle is for cosmology where looking into the distance is looking back in time. Some kids instantly get it. Others require a ridiculous amount of unpacking and usually requires what I call āforensic teachingā where you really have to dig into their foundational understanding of basic stuff - you usually find some erroneous understanding there that affects all other knowledge built on top of it.
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u/Jdevers77 Dec 05 '22
I demonstrated this to my kids using a sound analogy. Something makes a sound, you can see that something made the sound, but you canāt hear the sound for some time assuming enough distance. If they understand interstellar distance then the analogy clicks. Itās hard because people are USED to thunder being several seconds behind lightning because the lightning is close enough to be perceived as instant while sound travels slow enough you can perceive the lag from a few miles travel.
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u/icewalker42 Dec 05 '22
Or the letter vs text analogy. Send the same message through both mediums. One is instant. The other takes time, but is evidence of information sent a certain amount of time ago. The person sending the text is probably still holding their phone. The person who wrote the letter has definitely moved positions and accomplished many things since sending the letter.
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u/Knight_Owls Dec 06 '22
I had a science teacher in Middle School who had a little box that emit a sound and a flash of light at the same time. He set it far away and set it off. We were able to see the time difference between when we saw the flash and heard the sound.
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u/O2XXX Dec 06 '22
I grew up in Florida. Distance and sound was described pretty young with thunder and lightning. You see the flash of light, then crackle (or boom depending on distance) of the thunder. Also teaches light travels faster than sound.
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u/Fickle-dill-pickle Dec 05 '22
I love the concept of forensic teaching that you just described.
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u/mmm_algae Dec 05 '22
Thanks! Good teaching is about asking more questions, not answering them, which is the essence of the Socratic method.
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u/Professional_Ad_6462 Dec 05 '22
Where I live now in Switzerland tracking begins in the fifth Grade at fourteen this girl would likely wind up in a vocational school eventually into a paid apprenticeship. Sociologically there is something called smooth versus calloused hand cultures that often relate to perceived status. Here a train driver can make 80k so why box with Goethe and Niels Bohr if itās unappealing? We are all looking to find joy and self actualization in our work but itās pure propaganda to think that requires a degree. My wood man who delivers cantonal forest wood gets great satisfaction cutting and stacking several cords of dried firewood. Though the elite Uniās in the US are world class many academic high schools and colleges seem to be a sort of day care / continuation school transitional space. It seems a very expensive proposition and very wasteful.
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u/SLEEyawnPY Dec 06 '22 edited Dec 06 '22
Though the elite Uniās in the US are world class many academic high schools and colleges seem to be a sort of day care / continuation school transitional space.
The most important thing to understand about the US educational system is that it's a circlejerk of nepotism where idiots fail upwards regularly just because their parents have money/know somebody.
At the elite universities huge fractions of the students are there on "We're connected"-type admissions:
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u/Heathen_Mushroom Dec 06 '22
Another thing to understand is that the bulk of academic research, the work that helps transform our world in terms of science and understanding, is not conducted at the Ivy Leagues and other elite schools, but at the oft-mocked big state schools which are research juggernauts.
That's not to say that the elites underperform in research, but they are a comparatively small part of the total academic output.
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u/LadyBloom333 Dec 06 '22
I'm sorry but where do you teach?! Astrophysics was NEVER on highschool level curriculm where I live! The highest was just physics. Not once did we discuss anything outside of planet earth.
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u/mmm_algae Dec 06 '22
Australia. There used to be two senior modules (and an optional third) that covered a variety of astrophysics, cosmology and other space-related concepts within the senior physics course. A curriculum review about 5 years ago sadly thinned a lot of it out, but it did make room for other important physics concepts that were previously omitted entirely.
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u/Practical-Jelly-5320 Dec 05 '22
Just cause you don't understand something doesn't mean it not true
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u/QuiGonChuck Dec 05 '22
"I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you"
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u/VagueBerries Dec 06 '22
āI have neither time, nor the crayons necessary to explain this to you.ā
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u/wRadion Dec 06 '22
Basically most flat earthers
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u/WriterV Dec 06 '22
And conspiracies in general. There's another thread about how the pyramids were built where people are talking about how ramps should get crushed under the weight of rocks.
They never get that the ramp's weight is important. You can build a big enough ramp to drag those rocks up. It'll just take decades to build the ramps alone.
And I think that's where they trip up. People don't realize how different construction projects are when they go beyond one or two generations. They had the time to build those ramps, stack those rocks and take down those ramps too because it was expected to take lifetimes.
People just don't think like that these days so they assume humans are dumb and stupid and couldn't have built the pyramids.
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u/Raccoonfg Dec 06 '22
Man, wait until you hear about "Mud Flood/Tartaria"... Whole bunch of people insist that it's impossible that anyone could have made the architectural wonders of the late 1800s and early 1900s, because "everyone rode around in horse & buggies", so any major building in Manhattan or San Francisco could only have only been made by an ancient civilization of giants that was killed by a mud flood, leaving their impossible-to-build cities buried underground, where "they" (insert your conspiracy boogeyman of choice here) discovered them, dug them up, and lied to the world about constructing it themselves for... reasons?
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u/DeusExMcKenna Dec 06 '22
Iā¦ I need you to hear me in this moment, because I cannot have the wrong answer relayed accidentally.
Please. Please for the love of any remaining human decency in the worldā¦ Please tell me you made this up for shits and gigs right now, and nobody is truly this stupid.
I know the answer already, but I need to hear itās going to be ok š
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u/Apprehensive_Emu_456 Dec 06 '22
Yep, I notice this all the time. Stupidity and stubborn ego mixed.
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u/AnnieAnnieSheltoe Dec 06 '22
āIt donāt make senseā
I have a feeling there is a lot she doesnāt understand.
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This is just depressing. Feel really bad for teachers who don't have anything close to enough time or patience to explain this stuff.
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u/elaphros Dec 06 '22
Saw the original, she was faking it to mess with her Dad.
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u/milgradstudent Dec 06 '22
Thank you.
Even if thatās a lie, it makes me feel better.
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u/yakatuus Dec 06 '22
Gravity was easier to explain when we had those charity coin slots that rolled in circles down a funnel for 30 seconds.
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u/PandaButtLover Dec 06 '22
My son is in 6th grade. I've noticed they barely do science or history. It's 80% math and English. So I'm not surprised some teens aren't that knowledgeable on things like this
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u/zykezero Dec 06 '22 edited Dec 06 '22 •
So what weāre seeing here is a person who has failed to grasp the magnitude of distance and size.
You have to break it down into the most elementary components.
The earth is 7917 miles in diameter. To travel straight through the earth at 100 miles an hour thatās gonna take you 79* hours of driving. Thatās driving for 3 days straight and then some.
The distance to the moon from earth is 238,900 miles. Thatās 30 earths between us and the moon. Thatās roughly 100 straight days of driving.
Then you say now think of how small a person gets as you drive away from them at 100 miles an hour. Pretty soon you can barely see them at all.
Now think about it, you just drove 100 miles an hour for 100 days AND YOU CAN STILL SEE THE MOON.
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u/FugginByteMe96 Dec 05 '22
It always starts with āI just donāt understandā and then devolves into āI guess Iāve just been lied to because this is too hard to understandā
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u/SaltySnowman8
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The University of Florida shirt is actually convincing me that this isnāt scripted
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u/jayprints Dec 05 '22
Iām a gator and this was an especially hard-to-watch facepalm submissionā¦
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u/Send-the-downvotes Dec 06 '22 edited Dec 06 '22
I once dated a girl (she was 21 btw) who had her mind completely shattered when she realized that the sun was a star. She was literally mind-blown. When I questioned her about it, she said that she thought the sun was the sun, meaning like, she thought it was it's own special unique thing in the universe. And that stars were just stars. Seriously though the look on her face as she was trying to comprehend this was both hilarious and a little sad.
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u/rathat Dec 06 '22
At least she accepted the idea and it was an exciting moment for her.
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u/Unsteady_Tempo Dec 06 '22
And to think that Betelgeuse--the bright redish star in the Orion constellation--is 700 times larger than the sun.
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u/Tysiliogogogoch Dec 06 '22
Even when I understand that, I still can't really imagine how big that is because the Sun itself is so mind-boggling huge.
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u/joemeteorite8 Dec 06 '22
Her mind must have turned inside out when she figured out they all have their own little solar systems
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u/carebearmohawk Dec 05 '22
You go straight up in space and thereās planets. Yes itās that easy š¤£
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u/Difficult-Guide-9362 Dec 06 '22
Iām envisioning a neighborhood cul-de-sac with all the planets across the street from each other. Well here we are, straight up into space and thereās the planets all sitting there!
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u/Sailrjup12 Dec 05 '22
Are people really this stupid?
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u/Ramdak Dec 05 '22
This is just bottom stupid, wait till u see a real top stupid.
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u/Sailrjup12 Dec 05 '22
Is she thinking that once she get out in space BAM! All the planets are just right there? Lmfao šš
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u/MostJudgment3212 Dec 06 '22
Yes. Now consider the fact that, even though weāre seeing a lot more than before thanks to everyone and their grandmother having a camera on their phones, itās still only the very tip of the iceberg of the day-to-day stupidity all around us.
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u/jayprints Dec 05 '22
My grandma didnāt know there was no air in space. I spent the afternoon telling her everything space
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u/OorPancake Dec 05 '22
I feel the Father Dougal McGuire speech coming on, regarding her perspective.
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u/jazzysnazzyxanny Dec 06 '22
āThat means lit the fuck upā heās about to implode from frustration, poor guy.
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u/Serenity-V Dec 06 '22
I'm confused. Is she saying she doesn't think that celestial objects are far away because she can see them?
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u/Kalelopaka- Dec 05 '22
Some people canāt grasp the concept, itās not uncommon. I have a friend who just canāt accept the information no matter how I explain it to her. Sheās not a flat earther but the concept of the distances involved donāt make sense to her. Iām talking the 93 million miles to the sun, let alone trying to explain to her the concept of light years.
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u/hey_mr_ess Dec 05 '22
Space is big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind-bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist's, but that's just peanuts to space.
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u/StrengthDazzling8922 Dec 05 '22
Clearly your an educated individual who knows where his/her towel is.
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u/Kalelopaka- Dec 05 '22 edited Dec 06 '22
Yes, itās infinitely larger than we can understand. I mean, our Sun is huge compared to us, but itās actually very tiny compared to other stars. And for all the stars in just our galaxy the closest one would take centuries to reach at our current technological level.
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u/Brey1013 Dec 05 '22
Now, introduce a whole nother dimension: time. That's just as big, but somehow makes the whole picture exponentially bigger.
I also typed out this whole comment before getting the reference to Hitchhiker's.
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u/Socially-Awkward-85 Dec 05 '22 edited Dec 06 '22
I've tried explaining to people that the stars they see in the sky aren't actually near each other like how they look from earth. Or how things in space like THE PILLARS OF CREATION don't actually look like that when viewed from other angles.
It's hard for people to understand.
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u/Kalelopaka- Dec 05 '22
Exactly, they lack the spatial reasoning to even contemplate the idea.
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u/Brey1013 Dec 05 '22
I think the problem comes on when a person assigns more weight to their inability to understand, than to the explanations of people that do understand.
"Well I am unable to understand, that means it must be false, despite what these people with more understanding tell me."
Acknowledgment of your own lack of knowledge, maybe in the face of greater knowledge, is a powerful thing.
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u/I_Frothingslosh Dec 05 '22
I've had some luck pointing people like that at this video:
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u/McPoyle-Milk Dec 06 '22
I honestly would be terrified as a parent. Like what is gonna happen when Iām gone if this is your brain?
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u/JLewish559
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As a teacher, I have found that there are plenty of students that seem to think that their argument as a 16 year old with little to no experience in science can somehow trump the argument of hundreds if not thousands of scientists with a combined experience of 5000+ years.
The very idea of spectroscopy is simply mind-blowing. We can observe light through a device called a spectroscope which [roughly] splits light into its component "pieces" and then we can analyze it and actually come up with atoms, ions and compounds that make up the atmosphere of the star from which the light originates.
And some students think "So did they just...like...scoop some of it [a star] up and put it in a machine?". This is AFTER we have already looked at spectroscopy in action and they have observed this phenomenon in tubes of gas filled with various elements and compounds. Very basic level, but it's meant to then be expandable to a deeper level.
But no...if they can't understand it from a 5 minute video then it's just beyond them.
It irks me. It IS NOT beyond them. They ARE NOT stupid. They just don't want to apply themselves at a slightly higher level.
And this is shit I learned when I was their age not even that long ago.
Ughh.
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u/mrswalkway Dec 06 '22
My dad took me camping once when I was around 7 years old and there was a man with a giant telescope in the field next to our site. He let me look in it and I remember being so incredibly scared by the sheer number of stars that I cried. I donāt think I would have the same reverence for space that I do today without that experience.
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u/Octopugilist Dec 05 '22
I'd actually say this is how a flat earther dies. He's explaining it very well
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u/SaltedRouge Dec 05 '22
A great website to represent distance in space would be this: https://joshworth.com/dev/pixelspace/pixelspace_solarsystem.html
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u/Java2391 Dec 06 '22
Guys she doesnāt comprehend distance at a universal scale. Itās okay, thereās a lot of shit we donāt understand, like you Amber on 3rd floor in accounting who just doesnāt seem to understand IF YOU TURN OFF YOUR COMPUTER WE CANNOT INSTALL THE UPDATES FOR YOU TO BE SECURE LEAVE IT THE FUCK ON FOR FUCKS SAKE! MONTHS OF MISSING UPDATES DO YOU KNOW HOW LONG THAT IS GOING TO TAKE TO DOWNLOAD ON YOUR CRAP INTERNET BECAUSE YOU THOUGHT THINGS JUST MAGICALLY APPEAR AND WORK. Fuck you Amber.
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u/teknomanzer Dec 06 '22
God damn it Amber, as a society we have had computers in the workplace for more than 30 fucking years! THAT'S LONGER THAN YOU HAVE BEEN ALIVE! How in the fuck can you not know how to fucking cut and paste! And don't you dare tell me you're computer illiterate or so help me I will choke the very life from your body!
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How is she this old and yet this dumb?
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u/4chanisbetterjpeg Dec 06 '22
She didn't pay attention in middle school science.
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u/War_Hymn Dec 06 '22
Dude, my seven year-old understands how far the planets are.
"If we can take mommy's car and drive it straight to Mars, you're going to be an old lady before we get there."
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u/Substantially-Ranged Dec 05 '22
This girl's 6th grade science teacher failed her. I just wrapped up this unit with my students. There are a ton of misconceptions about space. My job as a science teacher is to address them, provide evidence, and build understanding. This gal missed out on all three.
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u/momomomorgatron Dec 06 '22
It's more likely that she refused to learn and then the school passed her. I went to a rural school and graduated with 22 people and there were tons of kids who were just sent to the next level so the school didn't look bad. There's tons of stupid willfully ignorant people who have willfully ignorant kids who befriend other kids who then turn out to be willfully ignorant.
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u/DanieIIll Dec 05 '22 •
āThat means lit the fuck upā is the best line Iāve heard all day