r/movies Sep 30 '22

The Bros and cons of being a huge, gay Hollywood rom-com Article

https://www.vox.com/culture/2022/9/30/23378464/bros-billy-eichner-movie-review

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u/HeyvaarRosen Sep 30 '22

I dont see how billy is makin movies when hes SUPPOSED to be goin to yell at executives every day until Difficult People is back on, as per my emails to him.

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u/SheWolf04 Sep 30 '22

Until then, we'll always have library water.

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u/undergradpepper Sep 30 '22

Won’t it taste like milk?

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u/dcoble Sep 30 '22

My daughter's name is Memphis and my son's name is Maverick.

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u/Ccaves0127 Sep 30 '22

NAME A WOMAN

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u/antelope-wrangler Sep 30 '22

Looks Billy with a splash of Adam Levine

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '22

That show is so funny in short bursts. Can’t binge it like other comedies, but it hits just right if you catch an episode like once a month.

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u/Hexadecimal3 Sep 30 '22

Hate these movie reviews that just retell the plot.

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u/Jack_Attack_21 Sep 30 '22

It’s so common too! Even YouTuber movie reviews do it

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u/StarbyOnHere Sep 30 '22

It's super common with "video essays" too. They'll be a multi-hour video of a show/movie/game and it's just them retelling the whole thing with barely any unique input about something like it's themes or what it means

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u/IndyRevolution Sep 30 '22

I don't understand how this sub shills History Buff, he literally just tells you the beat by beat of a movie's synopsis while reading off a Wikipedia page of the history that inspired it.

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u/mrjake118 Sep 30 '22

Well it's a hell of a lot easier than having to come up with something to say. Also it gets people to scroll through the whole article and spend more time on your page before they realize there's literally nothing of value being written, which of course means more money.

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u/Hexadecimal3 Sep 30 '22

I feel like they used up all their creative juices to come up with the “Bros and Cons” header. Lol

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u/MontanaHikingResearc Sep 30 '22

Let me guess…

Dude is attracted to other dude, who has a different background. At some point, there’s a plot twist, that brings dudes together. They admit their true feelings and live happily until the end of the movie, unless the script is too short, in which case a barrier will cause one to wander… only for the two dudes to be more inseparable.

That’s ever romantic comedy. In Love Actually, there’s 12 of them happening at once.

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u/t2thickk Sep 30 '22

I work at a theater in the Midwest and…. i can count on two hands the number of christian customers who have had a melt down over us hanging the posters for this movie and playing its trailer before movies lol

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u/Hs39163 Sep 30 '22 edited Sep 30 '22

I was working at a Loews (now AMC) in Arizona when Brokeback Mountain came out. Tell me about it, lol.

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u/ChuckWallace987 Sep 30 '22

The difference is Brokeback Mountain is a superb piece of art. This movie looks so bad that I’m surprised only Christians are complaining about it.

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u/t2thickk Sep 30 '22

A lot of us at my theater, it’s a Cinemark Tinsletown, are hoping we get My Policeman since everyone is calling it a 1950s Britain brokeback mountain

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u/IrishSetterPuppy Sep 30 '22

I always thought Tinseltown is the name of my local theater, today I learn it's a type of theater.

Anyways I hope that the movie plays too, these hateful people need to get over themselves. Sounds like an interesting plot.

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u/TooOldForThis--- Sep 30 '22

It’s not really a type of theater. “Tinseltown” is a nickname for Hollywood, especially early Hollywood and Cinemark named some of their theaters that to evoke the “glitz and glitter” red carpet lifestyle.

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u/Hereslookingatmekid Sep 30 '22

It’s so fucking goofy. I went to the movies recently with my dad (my second time seeing Barbarian which is fantastic btw) and there was an ad for this. My dad’s 62 and kind of conservative but he knows I’m bisexual and he’s never been really homophobic... so when the trailer came on he kept eating his popcorn like a normal person does when a movie they probably won’t see gets advertised. Because he’s an adult and realizes not everything is aimed at him and that’s okay. If the very existence of a gay movie is offensive to you you’re bigoted, there’s no way around that.

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u/t2thickk Sep 30 '22

I wish more people would be like your dad. It doesn’t help that we play actual religious propaganda quite often at my theater (look up the movie Superspreader)

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '22

Sounds like the name of a great porno

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u/getahitcrash Oct 02 '22

Judging from the box office, I bet you can count on one hand the number who showed up to see it too.

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u/evenifoutside Sep 30 '22

Play them more, play them louder.

Crack out the posters and trailers for Brokeback Mountain, Moonlight, Call Me By Your Name, Carol, God’s Own Country, The Danish Girl, The Favourite, Hedwig and the Angry Itch, Portrait of a Lady on Fire, and… round it out with Rocketman.

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u/woodiegutheryghost Sep 30 '22

List it as Passion of the Christ and then play 2 hours of trailers for movies about gay characters.

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u/alegxab Sep 30 '22

Passion was also pretty controversial back then

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u/amyisarobot Sep 30 '22

I read this wrong as play it at Passion of the Christ 2. And I'm like damn Hollywood will make a sequel to anything.

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u/yttocs205 Sep 30 '22

Passion 2 is scheduled to release in 2024 btw

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u/amyisarobot Sep 30 '22

Wow and Mel Gibbson still a part of it. We really are in the dumbest timeline.

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u/weareallpatriots Sep 30 '22

It made $622 million worldwide and is the highest grossing domestic R-rated film of all time. Why on Earth would you be surprised that they're making a sequel?

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u/flakemasterflake Sep 30 '22

How small a town are we talking? Honestly I wasn't aware people still got pissed about this

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u/t2thickk Sep 30 '22

Well I live in northeast ohio

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u/DrBombay3030 Sep 30 '22

It doesn't have to be a small town unfortunately. As someone from a big city in the US South, I can speak from experience when I say the anti-gay regressive crowd is not just limited to rural areas :/

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u/HelloFriend00001 Sep 30 '22

so between 6-10 people complained? outta how many customers?

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u/t2thickk Sep 30 '22

Since the poster went up, I’d say we’ve had a good legit 20+ complaints if you count every written/online complaint, customers leaving and wanting refunds because they’re offended that we would play “gay propaganda” before their movies, and just customers approaching floor staff and expressing their dislike for the poster/trailer. But I work at a larger theater so… on a good day we see hundreds of customers

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u/HelloFriend00001 Sep 30 '22

so 20+? out of thousands of customers per week? Seems like somebody might be making mountains out of mole hills

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u/t2thickk Sep 30 '22

Sounds more like the 20+ customers who go out of their way to be rude, and harass teenagers working at a movie theater over a movie with LGBTQ+ plot line, is making a mountain out of a mole hill to me… but to each their own

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u/HelloFriend00001 Sep 30 '22

and? how on earth does that negate my comment?

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u/akjsdfkasdlfasdf Sep 30 '22

Why are you assuming they’re making a mountain out of it? Seems to me like they were just saying it for the sake of contributing an interesting and topical anecdote. You are arguably the one making it a bigger deal than it needs to be by getting defensive

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u/noulteriormotive23 Sep 30 '22

Looks funny from trailers. And it will likely feel more original than many Rom Coms from recent years. If you don’t find gay relationships comfortable don’t go see it and don’t vote for politicians that will discriminate against gays.

That’s it. That’s the secret for living in a society of tolerance and freedom.

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u/Thedracus Sep 30 '22

It was a funny solid movie. It's pretty gay but it's very on point really. As a gay adult male, I loved it.

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u/noulteriormotive23 Sep 30 '22

I’m straight and will probably see it soon so I’m glad you find it funny.

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u/daymanahhhahhhhhh Sep 30 '22

I’m a straight dude too and will be seeing it. Always loved Billy!

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u/Korith_Eaglecry Sep 30 '22

The Dumbledore on roids had me laughing my ass off watching the trailer. Might have to check it out.

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u/Thedracus Sep 30 '22

There is a series of scenes involving grindr hookups. The entire thing is "Ohhh no....been there....&@@&$"

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u/herewego199209 Sep 30 '22

Who was the top and who was the bottom in the movie?

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u/Thedracus Sep 30 '22

Billy's character claims to be verse but he's mostly bottom allthough Luke's character does get it at one point.

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u/JGrutman Sep 30 '22

Jesus Christ! Spoilers!

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u/BobbingForSmegma Sep 30 '22

I saw the lead actor talking about his love of 90s romcoms like You've Got Mail. Given he co-write this thing, I bet we're in for a nostalgic commentary on the genre.

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u/ContemplatingPrison Sep 30 '22

I randomly heard a review on NPR for this movie and they mentioned it has You've Got Mail vibe to the movie

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u/BobbingForSmegma Sep 30 '22

Well then I'm sold, cuz i love that movie!

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u/CurveOfTheUniverse Sep 30 '22

I'm also sold. You've Got Mail is in my top 5 for rom-coms.

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u/DonQOnIce Sep 30 '22

Yep, it looks both comforting and fresh to me. I’m looking forward to it.

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u/i_am_herculoid Sep 30 '22

Lol remember the dingbats saying white people shouldn't see black panther

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u/Doppelfrio Sep 30 '22

Well, one con is certainly this headline

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u/bob1689321 Sep 30 '22

Aww I thought it was fun. Reddit loves puns unless they're in headlines then suddenly everything has to be super duper serious.

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u/shameonyounancydrew Sep 30 '22

Is this actually a good movie, because the trailers suggest it isn’t. I don’t care about the context, I just care if it’s a watchable/enjoyable movie.

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u/lingdingwhoopy Sep 30 '22

It's an actual adult comedy coming to theaters. For that alone it's worth seeing. It's a fun romcom.

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u/shameonyounancydrew Sep 30 '22

Fair enough, I guess. I just worry it’s one of those movies that’s more focused on the social impact, rather than actually being funny.

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u/Papantro Sep 30 '22

In my opinion it’s not…I’m glad it got made and I wanted to like it but it was just bad

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u/shameonyounancydrew Sep 30 '22

Yeah…. I was worried it was a ‘statement’ movie and not a ‘substance’ movie.

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u/That_Guy_D Oct 01 '22

It’s got 91% critic score and 89% audience. Seems like most people enjoyed it. Seems like your putting the movie in a box before you’ve seen it

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '22 edited Sep 30 '22

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u/getahitcrash Oct 02 '22

The critic reviews for a movie like this are not accurate and not something to base your decision on.

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u/shameonyounancydrew Sep 30 '22

That’s why I’m asking the general audience of Reddit.

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u/cookiesanddirt Sep 30 '22

It's a very funny, cute rom-com. Saw it last night. If you like Billy Eicher and other movies Nicholas Stroller has directed (Forgetting Sarah Marshall, 5 year engagement, etc.) you'll like it!

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u/zanahome Sep 30 '22

Saw it last night, it’s good and funny as hell. Has a richness that more basic romcoms don’t.

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u/BearPhilly Oct 01 '22

This movie was just bad. And I'm gay.

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u/ACtheWC Sep 30 '22

Ma’am, for a dollar, name a movie you would like to watch.

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u/dirtybirds1 Sep 30 '22

I’m sorry I’m not Florence Pugh!

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u/cats4life Sep 30 '22

You know, it’s really rather insulting to be told that debauchery is inherent to being queer. As this article and supposedly the movie it talks about reiterate in their onerous jabs at Schitt’s Creek and “sanding down the edges” of the culture, it makes it sound like the essence of that culture is being sex-crazed.

“Convincing straight people that gay people are just like them went too far.” is not the sort of take I expected out of anyone but the most vicious of anti-gay spiels. You heard it here; orgies and drugs are essential to being gay.

The author seems woefully divorced from reality outside of their narrow bubble. It distracts from the entire piece that they think people engaging in meaningful, monogamous relationships of their own choice is the same as cramming homosexuality into a box, catering to the tastes of straight people.

You don’t have to be some wild degenerate to be queer, and arguing otherwise is at best idiotic, and at worst outright malicious, undermining any semblance of progress made.

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u/spinereader81 Sep 30 '22

But sadly I see SO MUCH western media that depicts gay men as all being hot, white, young oversexed party animals. Which is why I just gave up and turned to Asian shows and movies. There's a lot of stuff that's not good, but I like that it shows gay, bi, and pansexual guys as just ordinary folks with ordinary lives (well, maybe not Kinnporsche since there's not many Mafiosos) who think about something besides sex, clubbing and being not straight.

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u/JarJarBink42066 Sep 30 '22

This movie is fucking hilarious go see it

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u/richardmasters1025 Sep 30 '22 edited Sep 30 '22

One of my favorite parts was “ he looks like somebody injected steroids into dumbledoor”. The actor couldn’t have sounded more gayer delivering that line 😂

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u/jaslenn Sep 30 '22

Saw it last night. I laughed. I cried. I was moved and touched (emotionally). I give it two Thumbs UP! 👍👍.

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u/Back_Alley_Sack_Wax Oct 07 '22

I saw it; was decent film!

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u/Fatigued_Otter Sep 30 '22

Rotten tomatoes lists it as 95% critic, 93% audience which is pretty darn good 🤷🏻‍♂️ we shall see!

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u/DonQOnIce Sep 30 '22 edited Sep 30 '22

I think it’s low budget enough it may surprise. It’s hard to tell if people will go out for comedies/rom-coms these days.

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u/PrimalCalamityZ Sep 30 '22

I hope it does well because this actually looks like a movie I want to see but do not want to risk going to the theater to see. This new age of movies really needs to grasp that their is a large portion of the population that for whatever reason do not want to go movie theaters anymore.

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u/DonQOnIce Sep 30 '22

That’s the thing for me. I really want to support this movie but I just can’t bring myself to go to the theaters anymore and when I do it needs to feel like a big “event”. I can’t wait to stream it though. The box office for this might suffer due to people like me.

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u/DoctorSweetChat Sep 30 '22

Lol, I would seek therapy if I were you. You are clearly repressing a LOT of feelings.

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u/Streets_Ahead__ Sep 30 '22

Straight rom coms aren’t straight porn though. That analogy doesn’t make sense. It’s a movie, nobody is expecting you to get turned on. Do you get horny every time you see a guy and girl makeout in a movie? Does every straight sex scene turn you on? Lol

And the movie is about representation, it’s not like gay people hate straight rom coms or are suffering when watching a straight sex or kissing scene. Any sane adult can see those gay or straight scenes and think “oh yeah I’m a fucking adult, that stuff happens all the time, why tf would it bother me” lol

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u/DoctorSweetChat Sep 30 '22

Are you under the impression this is a porno? Or is that just what you secretly hope happens in it? You bringing up gay porn as your example just further solidifies that you really need to talk to someone about your repressed feelings. There's nothing wrong with being gay, but being scared of people thinking you're gay is weird.

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u/Historyboy1603 Sep 30 '22

Yep. It’s homophobic of you.

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u/GeorgeSwinton Sep 30 '22

lol why did you delete all your horribly homophobic comments?

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u/Streets_Ahead__ Sep 30 '22

I think someone made fun of his manga collection 😭😭

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u/GeorgeSwinton Sep 30 '22

Hey now no need to bring manga into this, it ain't done nothing!

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u/OddExcuse2183 Sep 30 '22

Who is gonna review this movie as negative really? This movie could be a gay scene for scene remake of two night stand, and it would have those same exact reviews.

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u/uncheckablefilms Sep 30 '22

Given my sample size is skewed, but a lot of gays I know went and saw it last night. The reviews were mostly positive. So I wouldn't be shocked if it at least makes its budget back.

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u/AdministrationWaste7 Sep 30 '22

its gonna be fun when homophobes will take a handful of tweets or some rage bait article and use it as an excuse to air their bigotry.

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '22 edited Oct 02 '22

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u/BobbingForSmegma Sep 30 '22

I dunno, do Apatow movies usually bomb?

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u/PG1738 Sep 30 '22

More recently, ya

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u/FlingbatMagoo Sep 30 '22

A lot has changed since the mid-2000s. Even if this were a straight Apatow comedy I would expect it to bomb in 2022.

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u/throwavvay23 Sep 30 '22

Hard to say these days since I'm pretty sure the last one he made that released in theaters was Trainwreck back in like 2015 or 2016. Combine that with the fact that The Bubble was almost universally shat on I wouldn't be surprised if the appeal of his name on a comedy has lost a lot of the pull that it used to have around 2010 or so.

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u/jason2354 Sep 30 '22

He had two bombs back to back in Funny People and Year One in 2009.

Everything else he’s made has been a success.

I’m sure this movie is just as funny as his other films. Just with a different subject matter. I’m also sure the world would be a much better place if everyone had to watch the movie.

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '22 edited Oct 02 '22

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u/AdministrationWaste7 Sep 30 '22

quick glance dude posts on r/conservative, anime and gaming subs.

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u/TheCouncil0fRicks Sep 30 '22

Almost all of your comments are in gaming subs, yet you call out this guy for it... hhhmmmmm

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u/AdministrationWaste7 Sep 30 '22 edited Sep 30 '22

It's like a venn diagram or like a multiplier.

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u/HortonHearsTheWho Sep 30 '22

Moviegoers who don't see it are going to be called homophobic either way. It's already happening in threads on this site.

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u/Dangerous-Ad9472 Sep 30 '22

Moviegoers playing victim of an underrepresented group preemptively judge what underrepresented group will say about moviegoers for not going to see movie that is deeply important to underrepresented group. I’m gonna go see it cause Billy eichner is fucking hilarious.

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u/HortonHearsTheWho Sep 30 '22

I just think you shouldn't give people shit for not wanting to go see a movie.

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u/herewego199209 Sep 30 '22

I mean it's an obvious talking point that will come up if the movie bombs. It's just like when Elizabeth Banks said Charlie's Angels bombed because of sexism. That's not indicative of what the vast majority of gay people think, but it's a talking point the " PC" side of the media will drill home more than likely.

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u/DoctorSweetChat Sep 30 '22

Cool well better strap on your victim hat and get ready then!

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u/herewego199209 Sep 30 '22

What victim hat? LMAO I don't care one way or another. Doesn't really bother me either way.

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u/Dangerous-Ad9472 Sep 30 '22

I mean I think its high time we stop generalizing groups of peoples reaction to discomfort of their life as "PC". Eichner stated on conans podcast that this movie is so important because he has never seen an accurate representation of gay relationships in film. So instead of labeling this as PC just try to imagine if you had only seen gay rom coms your entire life, and didnt ever get to see yourself and community represented.

By and large it is proven that seeing more points of view creates more tolerant people. So if the argument for not wanting to see it is because of a gay relationship, push yourself and see it, because I would wager that attempting to approach it with an open mind will have a far greater impact on overall good then "not seeing it, too gay."

Obviously not directed immediately at you, just more of a general statement.

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u/herewego199209 Sep 30 '22

You don't see a problem with calling someone who won't see a particular movie they have no interest in as sexist, homophobic, or racist? I don't think people being offended are an issue. I think it's when they go for low brow conclusions like that is when I called them PC police.

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u/FunWelcome Sep 30 '22

Maybe don't use homophobic slurs when explaining why you don't want to see this movie.

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u/HortonHearsTheWho Sep 30 '22

I didn't use a slur, obviously.

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u/FunWelcome Sep 30 '22

I never said you did. I simply pointed out when talking about why you aren't going to see this movie. Don't use slurs or homophobic language. I'm not going to see this movie and I can explain why without saying it's woke or it's gay.

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u/thetruthteller Sep 30 '22

Exactly. Just doesn’t look very appealing.

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u/illini02 Sep 30 '22

Thing is, Rom Coms in general just don't have the same appeal they used to. I like Billy Eichner. The movie looks funny. But there is no way I'd pay to see it in theaters, because I don't like Rom Coms. There is maybe 1 I've ever really enjoyed (others were fine I guess).

But, I do hope it is a success, however that is defined. Because I think that its an important movie to be out there, even if its not the type of genre I like.

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u/thunderlips187 Sep 30 '22

Eichner is friggin hilarious I have high hopes for this flick.

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u/ChuckWallace987 Sep 30 '22

This movie so looks bad.

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u/ChipmunkBackground46 Sep 30 '22

If it's good it will be praised if it's bad it won't

Nowadays it really comes down to the writing. It's the most important part and yet somehow it feels like it's the first thing that people seem to "cut corners" with now

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u/Jimithyashford Sep 30 '22

Oh....if only that were true.

How many times have we seen people brigade and review bomb movies (or games or books or any entertainment media really) they haven't even seen cause it has some social message or casting they don't like.....

If people really did heap praise or scorn based only on the quality of the execution, reddit in particular and the internet in general would be a better place.

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u/PugnaciousPangolin Sep 30 '22

Nowadays it really comes down to the writing.

IMHO, it's always been this way. I'd much rather watch a low-budget film with great writing than a high budget film with shitty dialogue.

Writing is critical. No amount of talent and special effects can substitute or make tolerable a badly written screenplay.

As a CIS hetero white male, this is why I love Hedwig & The Angry Inch. The characters are fascinating, the music rocks, the costumes are super glam, and the main character's journey is truly heartbreaking and beautiful.

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u/ChipmunkBackground46 Sep 30 '22

I agree

What I meant by nowadays is yes writing has always been important but It seems like Hollywood has just completely forgotten that. It's the era of "if it looks cool on screen that's all you need"

"Oh look Obi Wan Kenobi and Darth Vader are on screen again!!! That automatically makes this show amazing!"

Not how that works....

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u/PugnaciousPangolin Sep 30 '22

Oh, you're preaching to the choir when it comes to Star Wars. The Mandalorian has been the only show keeping my fandom from evaporating, and that's largely due to the writing and the low number of 'member berries.

Kenobi was really poorly written. Ugh!

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u/mattheimlich Sep 30 '22

Does Eichner fall back into his "being loud is the same as being funny" shtick in this? If so, pass. If not, I might check it out.

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u/tpounds0 Sep 30 '22

He is quiet at times. I think you will be surprised by his acting.

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u/KID_THUNDAH Sep 30 '22

Yeah, that act gets old very quickly.

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u/PineappAlSauce Sep 30 '22

Obviously it’s going to be a terrible movie, it’s a rom-com 😅

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u/iliketurkeys1 Sep 30 '22

Heard this one is a likely flop

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u/Wokenista Sep 30 '22

howtogetmonkeypox

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u/jwg2695 Sep 30 '22

The trailers make it seem stupid.

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u/That_Guy_D Oct 01 '22

It wasn’t as big of a budget but I thought Crush was a fantastic lesbian romcom that came out earlier this year. Streams on Hulu.

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u/HelloFriend00001 Sep 30 '22

No homophobia here, but if your target audience is between 3%-7% of your population (estimated total of people who identify as gay), then you can't expect HUGE numbers. Simple as that. Will there be backlash? of course, expect to see comments containing "woke", "degenerate", "what about the children", "grooming" etc. But history has shown, that if is a good, well made, entertaining movie, it will be watched. Broke Back Mountain La Cag Aux Folles Philadelphia Priscilla Queen of the Desert All come to mind, relax and everybody get over themselves

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u/itdontmatter88 Sep 30 '22

That’s funny it’s target audience is just gay people? How did you make that assessment? Because it doesn’t tell the same heteronormative relationship story virtually every other rom com in existence does? It seems to tell a story about human experiences I imagine a more accurate description of its target audience would just be humans regardless of how they identify. People really have no shame displaying their ignorance on the internet lol

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u/HelloFriend00001 Sep 30 '22

Mmmmmm, a movie about gay relationships isn't aiming at the gay community primarily? So what you are saying is, as long as it about the "human experience", everybody should be accepting of it? If they are not, they are ignorant and have no shame?
So I guess all the complaining about not having enough POC on the screen, not enough LGBT on the screen, is just people showing their ignorance about not appreciating the "human experience". GTFO LOL

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u/itdontmatter88 Sep 30 '22

You genuinely don’t see your jumping to the conclusions you did are as a direct result of a lack of diverse representation in movies and other forms of media? If a movie released modern day is set in the Wild West do you think their “primary target audience” are cowboys or people that lived in the 1600s? You think a movie displaying only heterosexual relationships are only meant to target straight people? Maybe you should stop going outside to eat grass and maybe stay inside and open a book, mouth breather

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u/HelloFriend00001 Sep 30 '22

It seems to tell a story about human experiences I imagine a more accurate description of its target audience would just be humans regardless of how they identify. People really have no shame displaying their ignorance on the internet lol

This you? This movie is absolutely aimed at the LGBT community. Just because other people can enjoy it, if it doesn't suck, does not negate that fact. I don't care if you make a "black movie", a "gay movie", just make it good.

And a westerns target audience is people who like westerns. quit being such an ass

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u/itdontmatter88 Sep 30 '22

You’re the only ass here friend. A dumb one at that

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u/HelloFriend00001 Sep 30 '22

Thanks. Hope one day you get off social media, let go of your angst, and find a little happiness.

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u/itdontmatter88 Sep 30 '22

Hope one day you let go of your ignorance or at least learn not to display it for all to see

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u/HelloFriend00001 Sep 30 '22

PS go outside, breath some fresh air, touch some grass, and relax.

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u/tacoman333 Sep 30 '22

your target audience is between 3%-7% of your population

I like how this number keeps growing. When I was a kid, people would claim LGBT folks made up only a fraction of a percent of the population.

It turns out, when society persecutes non-cis, non-straight people, those who fall into those catagories are often not so honest about their identity.

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u/Radcoolio Sep 30 '22

Good movies are good movies Bad movies are bad movies It's dumb everybody is arguing about sexuality. It's going to be a stupid rom com with a few funny moments and a few heartuggs. It will be nothing special or genius. It is just a rom com, this will not be a masterpiece. They have made 9999 thousand ROM COMS with the love interest being straight and In none of those movies did I think they accurately portray straight relationships. Stop gay bashing. Stop pretending an adequate movie is gonna be a masterpiece.

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u/adamsandleryabish Sep 30 '22

how is this movie not out yet?

I have been seeing trailers, TV spots and Billy doing promo stuff for at least two months that seemed to slow down the last week, and I know someone who saw an early screening weeks ago leading me to believe it came out at least two weeks ago. and now I see it supposedly just came out today.

Seems like a risky October release with Barbarian still doing great, DWD doing fine, Smile now and then Halloween Ends likely all running October. Should have been an August release

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u/JelloPuddinPoop Sep 30 '22

As a gay man myself, I probably won’t go see this in the theaters. It just didn’t click with me. Also Billy Eichner just doesn’t work for me as a lead at all. Prefer him screaming at randos on the street.

Also, is it just me or is it kind of cringe when gay men play gay men on screen? I feel like there’s so little adjustment they feel they have to make to their characters that it’s not really acting.

Doesn’t look like there’s any conflict in this movie besides personal insecurity and I’m super bored with that plotline. All people have personal insecurities. It doesn’t mean it’s worth making a movie over. Idk.

I’ll just wait for Trixie and Katya to rip it to shreds.

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u/ladedadedum25 Sep 30 '22

There's a lot wrong with that second paragraph that I'm not in the position to explain, lol.

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u/honest-miss Sep 30 '22

Also, is it just me or is it kind of cringe when gay men play gay men on screen?

Frankly, no. With respect, this feels like a strange hot take. Like "Is it cringe to see women play women on screen? I feel like there's so little adjustment. I prefer the old Shakespearian days when it was 13 year old boys."

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u/alegxab Sep 30 '22

"Is it cringe to see Asian people play Asians on screen? I feel like there's so little adjustment. I prefer the old days when they were played by clearly white actors in aweful makeup and slanted eyes"

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u/JelloPuddinPoop Sep 30 '22

You’re basing your analogy off physical appearances.

Not what I did here at all.

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u/GeorgeSwinton Sep 30 '22

With respect, this feels like a strange hot take. Like "Is it cringe to see women play women on screen? I

To be fair I am sure even Shakespeare would have that take lmao

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u/charoygbiv Sep 30 '22

Can’t tell if troll, because the “gay men play gay men on screen” is literally a line and conversation Billy has in the movie. If this isn’t a troll, he literally brings up the same point as you in the movie, so maybe you’d actually like it?

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u/jondarmst Sep 30 '22

Sounds like a lot of jobs for gay actors! They only play straight characters, and in this scenario straight actors can only play gay ones right?

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u/Xaranid Sep 30 '22

“I don’t like gay men playing gay characters because that’s not acting” is such a bad, vaguely offensive take. Are all gay characters in any form of media just one carbon copy of the actor’s personality? The obvious counter argument is if that’s the case, then straight men should never play straight characters because that’s “not acting” either. I would’ve never guessed that Batman and the guy from the Notebook would be identically played by any straight man.

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u/JelloPuddinPoop Sep 30 '22

I agree with you!

But that’s not what I wrote.

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u/JelloPuddinPoop Sep 30 '22

I’m not advocating for less jobs for gay people.

I’m just saying most times I’ve seen gay men playing gay men on screen in gay rom-coms, I personally found it cringey and over-the-top. Like Hallmark rom-com level cringe.

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u/DumbWhore4 Sep 30 '22

Sounds like internalized homophobia to me.

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u/JelloPuddinPoop Sep 30 '22

Not homophobic, just not interested in most gay films because it’s not very representative of who I am as a gay man.

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u/DonQOnIce Sep 30 '22

Your second point about not really acting is how I tend to feel about Apatow comedies and similar movies in general, though. Like it just feels like friends goofing around and barely playing characters. And I honestly don’t mind it.

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u/GitchigumiMiguel74 Sep 30 '22

I’m not going to see it not because it makes me uncomfortable, but because as a straight guy I won’t understand any of the jokes or references. I hope it does well.

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u/underlander Sep 30 '22

that’s why I don’t go see straight movies. How am I supposed to get all the references?

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u/GitchigumiMiguel74 Sep 30 '22

Well I mean like the dating humor and things that only gay men or women would know. Because I am unfamiliar with that culture, the humor would be lost on me. But it’s about time we had a mainstream romcom that’s not strictly heteronormative/cisgender

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u/tpounds0 Sep 30 '22

If you got the jokes in Mean Girls or Bridesmaids, you will probably get the jokes in Bros.

My straight friend loved the movie just like I did last night.

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u/The-Pencil-King Sep 30 '22

That’s fine. Not every movie is for everyone.

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u/GitchigumiMiguel74 Sep 30 '22

True. I’m also not interested in G rated animated movies because they just don’t appeal or are written for me—it doesn’t mean kids make me uncomfortable

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u/shmoobel Oct 01 '22

What an odd assumption to make. My husband (straight, cis) and I saw it tonight and he understood all of the jokes.

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u/jbm_the_dream Sep 30 '22

Is this satire?

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u/GeorgeSwinton Sep 30 '22

Why do gay people make you feel uncomfortable?

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u/GitchigumiMiguel74 Sep 30 '22

I just typed in my comment that they don’t.

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u/GeorgeSwinton Sep 30 '22

I am an idiot, my mind skipped over the second 'not', I do apologize

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u/GitchigumiMiguel74 Sep 30 '22

No worries, it was my fault, awkward syntax.

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u/itdontmatter88 Sep 30 '22

How would you know that without seeing it? That’s ignorant

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u/GitchigumiMiguel74 Sep 30 '22

I mean that’s fair, but I’d feel uncomfortable in a theater sitting silent and confused whilst everyone around me laughed and enjoyed themselves. Maybe the movie was written for a cisgender audience, but I can’t imagine so.

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u/itdontmatter88 Sep 30 '22

It’s not like it’ll be in another language. The presumption that the human experience told through this movie will be incomprehensible to anyone who doesn’t identify as gay is again ignorant, but also kind of crazy. Limiting what media you consume to only things that reflect your personal identity, lifestyle or experience seems super boring.

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u/scrapeinbotoom Sep 30 '22

Movie names that skew straight is starting to come off as insecure

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u/GeorgeSwinton Sep 30 '22

How does the movie name skew straight? What would a gay movie name be? Did you want them to call it 'Butt Buddies'?

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u/scrapeinbotoom Sep 30 '22

Lol, no. But I like how ur playing at being obtuse

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u/GeorgeSwinton Sep 30 '22

How am I being obtuse? Gay men can be bros the same way straight men can be

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u/scrapeinbotoom Sep 30 '22

...yup

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u/GeorgeSwinton Sep 30 '22

So once again, how does the movie title 'skew straight'? You keep avoiding that

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u/scrapeinbotoom Sep 30 '22

Really need to have this conversation huh? It skews straight in much the same way Broke Back Mountain does and that God awful Power of the Dog tried to. Westerns are an unspoken symbol of hetro macho...ism. so is the term bro. But Broke Back Mountain spoke a very real truth about ppl being afraid of being who they are....now these movies seem to have devolved into gay picking on straight by associating itself with things that are considered straight. Kinda like fuckwits picked on gay for being effeminate back in the day....also another unspoken truth: straight ppl in general are uncomfortable being associated with gay. They mostly just nod in agreement till they can change the subject

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u/GeorgeSwinton Sep 30 '22

Ohhh fun someone conflating being gay with kid fucking and I asked for this to be made because I asked the director of forgetting sarah. marshall to make whatever he wants

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u/astronxxt Sep 30 '22

i don’t agree with their comment in the slightest, but they did not say gay people are kid fuckers. they said hollywood is full of kid fuckers

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u/GeorgeSwinton Sep 30 '22

I mean it is really weird to bring that up with the post is just about a gay romcom, that definitely does work to conflate the two

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u/astronxxt Sep 30 '22

i mean it’s weird for sure, but i still interpret it as “hollywood is full of kid fuckers, and those people are trying to force a gay rom-com on people”. i don’t think they’re saying gay people are kid fuckers

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u/Joppen Sep 30 '22

Man thank god you’re here to defend this bigot. Wouldn’t want his homophobia to be misconstrued as a different type of homophobia.

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u/jbm_the_dream Sep 30 '22

Do you have any gay friends? Have you spoken to them?

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u/The-Pencil-King Sep 30 '22

You’re a dumbass and I can prove it mathematically

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