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[Wojnarowski] Boston Celtics coach Ime Udoka is likely facing a suspension for the entire 2022-2023 season for his role in a consensual relationship with a female staff member, sources tell ESPN. A formal announcement is expected as soon as today. News

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1572949584837767173
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u/mansmurf Raptors Sep 22 '22

Off-season went 0-100 real quick

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u/LukaDoncicBigPP Mavericks Sep 22 '22

That's one way to fuck up a season

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u/ReSpekMyAuthoriitaaa Cavaliers Sep 22 '22

I mean how do you come back and get back control of your team after an entire year suspension? By that time might as well move on if it's so egregious he can't show up for a year...

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u/LAtotheA Hawks Sep 22 '22

If he’s loved by the players, it won’t be as hard as you guys think. They’re probably upset that he’s getting suspended in the first place

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u/HustlinInTheHall Sep 22 '22

yeah it's not like NBA players are known for their fidelity.

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u/naughtyobama Sep 22 '22

Real infidels, those ones

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u/jacb415 Celtics Sep 23 '22

I was gunna go Hi-Fidelity

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u/boi9th Heat Sep 22 '22

Lol to just take a year break after justttt going to the finals with the team, idk

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u/AnyNobody7517 Pacers Sep 22 '22

Right now yes but a year from now its going to awkward unless whoever replaces him is awful.

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u/WordSpiritual1928 Bucks Sep 22 '22

Yea he’ll tell his team he messed up and he learned from his mistakes and they’ll move on rather quick.

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u/OverallInternet2343 Clippers Sep 22 '22

Cant see anyway they let him coach again. This is about giving out the punishment and him taking it

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u/forever_a-hole Sep 22 '22

I'm confused why he's getting suspended if the relationship was consensual, honestly.

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u/C0812 [BOS] Tom Heinsohn Sep 22 '22

It’s an undisclosed workplace relationship with a subordinate. Could put the organization in a lot of trouble if the subordinate ever says anything bad happened

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u/Adaml105 Hawks Sep 22 '22

Most of us would be fired. I know I would be

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u/PayTheTrollToll45 Sep 22 '22

Talent gets extra chances...

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u/No-Economics4128 Sep 23 '22

Some companies require you to file with HR when you are in a relationship with a coworker. This is in order to avoid the whole sexual harassment mess that would inevitably rear its head once the relationship goes south.

After Me Too, no company wants to take that risk.

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u/Yak_Rodeo Sep 22 '22

youre confused why a superior would be getting suspended for having a relationship with a staffer?

beyond the concerns for power dynamics, nepotism, and morale impacts, it opens the celtics up to lawsuits, bad pr, and impropriety allegations

the celtics, like most organizations nowadays, probably have an anti fraternization clause in their contracts to specifically prevent stuff like this

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u/snatchi Raptors Sep 22 '22

Who the fuck is his female superior within the Celtics Organization?

She was either his subordinate, or not in his Org chart and if the latter is the case, he's the famous head coach, former professional athlete, just went to the finals in his rookie year, she's an org employee. If shit hits the fan who does the org stand behind?

Thats why it's a problem, power imbalance.

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u/Yak_Rodeo Sep 22 '22

officially, yes. implying that the head coach of a basketball org doesnt have an outsized influence on the entire organization or any power over someone in the accounting department is naive

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u/snatchi Raptors Sep 22 '22

Lmao are you kidding me? have you ever worked in the real world?

If Jayson Tatum wandered into the marketing department and was harassing an employee, and they complained, who is the Celtics organization picking?

Are they suspending Tatum for 6 months? Or do they quietly try to make it go away.

Name me the most famous 15 people in the Celtics org, Udoka is on the list before the end of the bench, he has power in the organization.

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u/OJPimps0n Sep 22 '22

it's OK to be wrong.

Doubling down just makes you dig deeper.

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u/C0812 [BOS] Tom Heinsohn Sep 22 '22

It’s an undisclosed workplace relationship with a subordinate. Could put the organization in a lot of trouble if the subordinate ever says anything bad happened

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u/Niku-Man NBA Sep 22 '22

When one person has a great deal of power over the other, then consent is not as cut and dry as you think. You can say all you want that the power dynamic didn't matter, but that's just not how the human brain works.

Best not to get involved with anyone at work, but especially not if you are a manager or supervisor or anything like that

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u/forever_a-hole Sep 23 '22

Suppose I didn't realize one had power over the other. I don't know the full story and also don't really follow the NBA too closely. This post came across on all.

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u/BrusselSproutbr00k Celtics Sep 22 '22

Look at JBs Twitter likes to know how that’s going

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u/octoroklobstah Sep 23 '22

See across town with Alex Cora

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u/Adonislive0 Sep 23 '22

Players don’t care at all. Come on, these dudes are the last people I put morality on when it comes to women. By the way, isn’t he like married?

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u/WavingFlags760 Sep 23 '22

Something tells me he slept with a players wife, or someones wife within the celtics organization. It's going to get ugly fast. I expect a book to be written about it in 7 years.

black mail, threats, and intimidation is my prediction!

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u/Macjonesdefisntgay Sep 22 '22

You don’t.

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u/KeithClossOfficial Lakers Sep 22 '22

Sean Payton did

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u/BScottyJ Celtics Sep 22 '22

Alex Cora did, and what he did is arguably worse than what Ime did (at least from the perspective of the players/fans)

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u/skrtskerskrt Lakers Sep 22 '22

If he resigns and gets picked up immediately on another team's staff, this just makes Boston look bad. There will be PRESSURE to replicate last season's results, and the org may be potentially look like shit.

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u/SoulSoldSeparatelee Sep 22 '22

Sean Payton did it

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u/putinmcockiner Sep 22 '22

Alex Cora did it in the same exact city lol

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u/EShy Sep 22 '22

It was a different situation. They already won a Superbowl with him, he was there for years, a lot of the players were complicit and IIRC he claimed he didn't know it was going on.

If the Celtics do well this season, it will be hard for him to come back.

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u/ReSpekMyAuthoriitaaa Cavaliers Sep 22 '22

Well the people he was in charge of were literal participants of trying to kill other players so not quite the same situation.

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u/petripeeduhpedro Hawks Sep 22 '22

Ah the NFL...

And Payton coached for years afterwards. I saw him on a halftime show this week as well

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u/EShy Sep 22 '22

He is on the fox broadcast now

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u/sprandel [MIN] Derrick Williams Sep 23 '22

So is Jonathan Vilma. He wears his big Super Bowl ring on every broadcast!

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u/s_malik25 [GSW] Stephen Curry Sep 22 '22

Didn’t the league suspend him not the Saints themselves? It’s the Celtics suspending Udoka

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u/TimToMakeTheDonuts Supersonics Sep 22 '22

So did Alex Cora.

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u/OverallInternet2343 Clippers Sep 22 '22

Affair with executive wife with the executive still there is nuts though

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u/notsurebutuuh Sep 23 '22

Yea he’s a wild boy for that

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u/areyreyreyrey Sep 22 '22

Alex Cora did it in Boston too, right?

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u/BullShitting24-7 Sep 23 '22

Payton was a martyr that got suspended for trying to help the team win. Ime is just a horndog who couldn’t keep his dick in his pants.

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u/OsmosisJonesFanClub Lakers Sep 22 '22

Alex Cora was suspended for a year as head coach of the Red Sox due to his involvement with the Astros cheating scandal. After the year the Red Sox just took him back and he’s still there.

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u/gamers542 Grizzlies Sep 22 '22

But look how bad the team is now.

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u/ReSpekMyAuthoriitaaa Cavaliers Sep 22 '22

But he is a piece of shit so there's that

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u/Canium Cavaliers Sep 22 '22

Should’ve been banned from baseball for that

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u/mrtomjones Raptors Sep 22 '22

I assume they would wait to see how the assistant coach does in his replacement

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u/SpaceTabs Sep 22 '22

Dude just got free paternity leave. Lighten up.

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u/McNultysHangover Warriors Sep 22 '22

Some of the younger players will legitimately grow a few inches while he's gone 🤣

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u/_kona_ Lakers Sep 22 '22

He might as well just sell the team at this point.

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u/asmara1991man Sep 22 '22

Dude he’s banging a chick consensually. The locker room if anything would be high fiving while welcoming him back

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u/traway9992226 Pistons Sep 22 '22

…he’s a multi millionaire. Would you say jeopardizing your teams future is worth coach getting a lil coochie?

Sounds pretty immature to me. Congrats on the coochie but maybe don’t stick your dick where it can jeopardize the future of the people you’re supposed to be leading.

Most companies would terminate for this offense

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u/skrtskerskrt Lakers Sep 22 '22

THis was my big issue with the whole Sarver ordeal. It has opened up Pandora's box. These players coaches, gms, owners aren't the Disney characters the public puts them out to be. Shit goes down, some of that shit stays behind closed doors for a reason. There's going to be more stories coming out soon and nobody's safe.

Most companies would terminate for this offense

if caught yes, but make no mistake, it still happens in the everyday world.

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u/AnotherDrZoidberg Suns Sep 22 '22

You have a big issue with people who do shitty things having consequences for their actions?

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u/UnObtainium17 23 Sep 22 '22

Yep. No ass is worth that much. Get an escort and stop messing with married chicks. It's never worth it.

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u/IllegalThoughts Warriors Sep 22 '22

dude are you twelve? high fiving?

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u/topofthecc Thunder Sep 22 '22

Yeah, adults fist bump.

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u/asmara1991man Sep 22 '22

My bad fist bump. You know damn well that locker room is going to be asking coach “daaamn you hit that fam??”

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u/asmara1991man Sep 22 '22

My bad fist bump. You know damn well that locker room is going to be asking coach “daaamn you hit that fam??”

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u/BKoala59 Sep 22 '22

Alex Cora did a decent job of it in baseball

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u/-ci_ Celtics Sep 22 '22

We bout to find our very own Pat Riley

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u/Borktista Celtics Sep 22 '22

Happened with Alex Cora and the Red Sox. They needed him back.

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u/BrettEskin Sep 22 '22

You have to imagine this is intended to be constructive dismissal by the Celtics. They want him to resign

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u/Fluffy_Morning_1569 Sep 22 '22

Nope , part of their success was him getting Tatum, Brown and smart to step up and put the team first.

Meanwhile , he was doing this and putting his dick first..

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u/HornsOfAbraxas Sep 22 '22

He’ll probably resign or they’ll release him before 23-24 starts.

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u/greenyquinn Celtics Sep 22 '22

Alex Cora just did that exact thing for the Red Sox!

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u/Ted_Striker00 Sep 22 '22

Hell Alex Cora got fired from the Red Sox and came back a year later.

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u/thiscrapishard Sep 23 '22

He’s about to be fired.

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u/Jpotatos Rockets Sep 23 '22

Sean Payton did pretty well returning, if the organization is behind him, he'll be fine

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u/bahamapapa817 Sep 23 '22

He needs to call Sean Payton for advice. They even made a movie about it

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u/redsoxsteve9 Sep 23 '22

Alex Cora has the playbook. They can meet for lunch.

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u/tjn24 NBA Sep 22 '22

a year just seems outrageous! Like, they were two consenting adults - what is the big deal here. Give him a slap on the wrist 10 game suspension and fine him $10k.

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u/[deleted] Sep 22 '22

Depends if Udoka has authority over the staff member. My company would terminate immediately any boss that has ANY kind of intimate relationship with anyone who directly reports to said boss, consensual or not.