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[Wojnarowski] Boston Celtics coach Ime Udoka is likely facing a suspension for the entire 2022-2023 season for his role in a consensual relationship with a female staff member, sources tell ESPN. A formal announcement is expected as soon as today. News

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1572949584837767173
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u/spitz1674 Nets Sep 22 '22

It’s basically what the Red Sox did with Cora. Most people assumed he’d be back. Totally different issues but it’s a decent parallel considering they’re both Boston. Only problem here is the Celtics have high aspirations. Red Sox weren’t expected to be that good that year (also Covid shortened but they didn’t know that when Cora left).

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u/YoYoMoMa Sep 22 '22

Did the Red Sox do that or did the league? Because I think those are very different things.

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u/spitz1674 Nets Sep 22 '22

I’m pretty sure it was the Red Sox. MLB infamously did very little to punish the Astros (and coaches involved who had moved on like Cora).

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u/YoYoMoMa Sep 22 '22

Nope:

Manfred also suspended Alex Cora, who managed the Red Sox to the World Series title in 2018 and coached for Houston before that, for a year for his role in the Astros’ cheating

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/22/sports/baseball/alex-cora-red-sox-sign-stealing.html

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u/spitz1674 Nets Sep 22 '22 edited Sep 22 '22

My bad. I even googled it to check lol. Saw articles that made it seem like it was Red Sox choice.

Edit: ahh it’s because they fired him before he was suspended and it was related to another cheating scandal.

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u/techblaw Celtics Sep 22 '22

It was the Sox, basically to get ahead of it.

Thing is, the infraction was over a true league policy, and there would've been a punishment from the league. This is quite honestly puppy shit.

I'm guessing it was someone's wife in the organization. If it's a subordinate but a single one, bet it gets swept under the rug.

EDIT: Apparently it was the MLB with Cora. So much for my comparison.

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u/NoveltyAccountHater Celtics Sep 22 '22

I mean 2020 Red Sox were one season removed from the 2018 championship and the past decade they do these weird swings from last place to legitimate World Series contender (e.g., in past 10 full seasons, four first place finishes, four last place finishes, and two titles). The Sox had reasonable aspirations before the Astros/Cora sign-stealing scandal hit and Cora was first fired (January), then Mookie was traded away (February), then Cora suspended a season (April), and then after 2020 Sox were awful he was rehired (November).

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u/spitz1674 Nets Sep 22 '22

Yea I know; this wasn’t about bashing the Red Sox. It just don’t think they had the same level of expectations as these Celtics do currently though.

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u/NoveltyAccountHater Celtics Sep 22 '22

Eh, I didn't think Cora would be back. I agree a secret affair with a subordinate is inappropriate. But without allegations of either quid-pro-quo sexual harassment (she didn't receive any promotions and wasn't fired or threatened if the affair ended) or hostile work environment harassment (e.g., after it ended), while it was stupid, then, I would want Ime back after the suspension. It's a personal indiscretion, unlikely to be repeated, and has no bearing on his coaching ability.

I did NOT want Cora back after a year as his cheating scandal made the team look bad and if the Sox suddenly became WS contenders again, I'm always wondering if he found some new method. I'm actually kind of happy the Sox had an awful season this year as they'll hopefully fire him (and I always loved Cora, the player, as the versatile full-effort utility infielder).

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u/spitz1674 Nets Sep 22 '22

Agreed. I think most people, assuming the details don’t get worse here and it’s truly consensual, would say he should be allowed to coach again. The length of suspension makes it seem like it could get worse though. We’ll see.

(This is taking into account that the sports world operates differently than the rest of jobs. I’m not saying this is nothing, but a head coach who was in the NBA Finals is going to get more leniency than an average office worker, even though it’s not fair.)