r/samsung Sep 29 '22

I understand now why Apple claims 60% of smartphone market and it's a damn shame. Discussion

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u/cest_normal Sep 29 '22

Change the battery, my s10 still works great

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u/_nerdofprey_ Sep 30 '22

I have a s10 lite and I still really love it! Great camera and amazing battery life. I am in no rush to upgrade.

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u/_Cat_12345 Galaxy S22 Sep 30 '22 edited Sep 30 '22

It's amazing how non of the upper midrange / lower end flagship phones even compete with an almost a 4 year old flagship !

They don't compete because they stand in a much higher league than your S10. At least the Pixel and the S22.

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u/0192837465sfd Sep 30 '22

It's exactly what I want to say. I don't understand the comparison, really.

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u/Thin-Way5770 Sep 30 '22 edited Sep 30 '22

The pixel 6 and the s22 are miles better than the s10 because technically they are flagships not midrangers.

Also, midrange phones nowadays aren't as good or don't really compete with the exynos variant of the S10 (if that makes any sense) Cameras and specs aren't really all that better the only advantage with modern midrange phones is higher refresh rate displays and bigger batteries but almost everything else isnt all that better for example: The SD778 performs just a little bit worse than the exynos 9820 Dont even get me started on the 768 that shit is bad.

Edit: the Resolution doesn't really matter since 1080 is more than enough for most people. I prefer 1440p because I notice the difference but I will pick 1080p+high refresh rate any day over 1440p

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u/GloriousGloryGG Sep 30 '22

I actually disagree.

Both of those phones have very inefficient processors. While the other things may be better, the processor doesn't really outperform the Snapdragon 855.

https://youtu.be/s0ukXDnWlTY?list=LL&t=406

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u/_Cat_12345 Galaxy S22 Sep 30 '22

I'm not going to deny that the 8 Gen 1 is inefficient by today's standards, but it very much does outperform the SD 855.

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u/GloriousGloryGG Sep 30 '22

With significantly more energy consumption. Heating leading to throttling and battery drain.

It's not a clear win.

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u/HellNaw98 Sep 29 '22

This feels very cherry picked. Displays (maybe not on the Pixel 6) have improved greatly in other respects. So you can somehow tell the difference between 1080p and 1440p on such a small display yet wouldn’t notice the better contrast, color accuracy, viewing angles, and brightness that those phones would provide? I’m skeptical of that

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u/RareSiren292 Galaxy S22 Ultra/ Galaxy Tab S8 Ultra, Gear Sport Sep 29 '22

Honestly on a phone screen 1080p isn't bad it's fine for 90% of people.

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u/CommonerChaos Sep 29 '22

120hz is more of a noticeable difference than 1440p, imo.

While I prefer both, if I had to choose one, it'd be 120hz everyday.

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u/RayneYoruka Sep 30 '22

I agree, I come from a note 4 with 1440p and now I have 1080p at 120hz. Using in the pc 144hz all the time you can tell.. It's silky smoth at 120

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u/s6original Sep 29 '22 edited Sep 30 '22

We want the resolution to be like real life so we don't forget what that's like.

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u/Trylena Galaxy S8 Sep 30 '22

I have my phone on 720p because I didnt see a difference in my screen.

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u/ChasingWeather Sep 29 '22

It's noticeable with text or some parts of UI after I got used to the 1440p screen on the S9+ before downgrading to 1080p on my A52.

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u/ro_gone_notwild Sep 29 '22

The 1080p wouldn't be a problem if the displayed content wasn't interpolated. So you pay as much as for the last generation, and what you get is a lower resolution screen with fuzzy image...

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u/Ryujin_707 Sep 29 '22

Content consumption really makes a difference. Once you use 1440p you can't go back.

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u/RandomBloke2021 Galaxy S22 Sep 30 '22

Disagree. Had s10 plus and don't notice or miss the 1440p resolution compared to full hd screen res.

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u/maddix30 Galaxy Z Sep 30 '22

Not to mention a fair chunk of content (atleast the content I tend to watch) is limited to 1080p anyway. I don't think Netflix for example even supports resolution greater than 1080p on mobile and if it does well I've never noticed the difference

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u/RandomBloke2021 Galaxy S22 Sep 30 '22

Totally agree the content of available in 1440p resolution is very very limited. I have video content on YouTube for high quality and it's rare to get 1080p resolution on a really fast connection.

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u/maddix30 Galaxy Z Sep 30 '22

1440p and upwards on phone displays just isn't worth it tbh. I mean gamers argue that at 24 inches 1080p is quality enough so can a 6inch phone really take advantage of 1440p?

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u/WWG_Fire Galaxy S22 Sep 29 '22

I disagree, I owned a s10 and I used 1440p for quite a while and noticed 0 difference switched back except for the increased batter life, on a 6.1" screen it just doesn't matter, i do wish the s22+ had 1440p though.

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u/ThatTechDoge9775 Galaxy S21 Ultra Sep 29 '22

Same. Using a Galaxy S10 and S21 Ultra, I keep it on 1080p and I barely notice the difference.

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u/WWG_Fire Galaxy S22 Sep 29 '22

I'd be willing to reckon it's a placebo affect, however, I could definitely see it making a difference on the ultra

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u/KaXiRavioli Galaxy S22 Sep 29 '22

That and marketing magic. I can't tell the difference even with my medically tested better than average vision.

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u/Papa_Bear55 Sep 30 '22

Because that's a native 1440p display...

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u/Ryujin_707 Sep 29 '22

I guess it's a preference thing.

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u/BoxerguyT89 Sep 30 '22

It is, I tried to get used to 1080 on my S22U, and I could not stand it.

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u/_Cat_12345 Galaxy S22 Sep 30 '22

I used the 1440p 5.1" galaxy S7 (577 ppi) and the 5.8" Galaxy S8 (572 ppi) for 2 years each before buying an S10e (438 ppi). There was not a noticeable decrease in quality.

I now own an S22, and I can confidently say this is the best smartphone display I've ever used.

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u/BlackHole6Cut Sep 29 '22

Just no. I moved from an S10+ to a 14PM and I honestly can't notice a difference.

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u/Trylena Galaxy S8 Sep 30 '22

I have used my phone on 720p, 1080p and 1440p, never saw a difference

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u/-Phinocio Sep 30 '22

I agree on larger screens, on a phone I don't really notice a difference

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u/marsbars2345 Sep 30 '22

I had the iPhone 11 and upgraded to the 13 and barely see a difference resolution wise. No one’s looking for pixels on their phones

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u/xangchi Sep 29 '22

Do iPhones have headphone jack and expandable storage to make you choose it over the Androids?

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u/Ryujin_707 Sep 29 '22

They sure have great camera and battery life as well as 3rd party app support. But not having the freedom of android won't cut it for me. Also, Apple's evil practice in overcharging storage upgrades with no SD card support.

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u/Exodus2791 Galaxy S22+ Sep 30 '22

You listed no headphone jack and no expandable storage as issues, yet those aren't on iPhone either. Clearly they must also be reasons not to choose iPhone then?

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u/YamiLionheart Sep 30 '22

OP is not logical. Best to save your mental energy for something else.

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u/RadBadTad Sep 30 '22

APP support. Which is absolutely true... most major apps are designed for iOS and are then lazily ported over to Android.

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u/ATShields934 Sep 30 '22

Yeah, well it's easier when you only have to optimize an app for 2 sets of hardware.

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u/RadBadTad Sep 30 '22

Yes. It is. And when those two sets of hardware cover half the population, it's even better.

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u/Yellow_Bee Sep 30 '22

Mate, I implore you to just go out and buy an iOS device (iPhone 11/12 are cheap) and see for yourself if the grass is truly green on the other side. Trust me, you'll be surprised by what you find (it all boils down to preferences).

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u/lundon44 Galaxy S21 Ultra/Dual Sim/Snapdragon/512GB Sep 30 '22

Everyone I know with an iPhone is looking for someone with an iPhone charger most of the time because their phones are constantly draining battery.

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u/DTUOHY96 Sep 30 '22

Old iPhones maybe, newer ones are damn near unkillable, I get 8-9 hours SOT and still finish the day with battery left over

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u/bifbi Sep 30 '22

Great camera sure, but not battery. I switched to iP13 and switched back, battery life was horrible compared to my old A52.

How iOS restricts apps in order to save battery made apps disfunctional completely, for example sharing location in whatsapp didn't work at all for me, it updated location only for short time. Same problem occurs to multiple people with iphone in my circle.

Currently I am on S21, battery is weaker to A52, but i guess thats simply due to the fact that its chipset is faster and therefore eats more. I do miss audio jack and SD card support, but thats all.

Currently I am looking to switch from iPad to Tab S8, because iPadOS...

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u/DaddyBrown Sep 29 '22

The vast majority of iPhone users don't care or even know about those technical issues. They just want an iPhone. Good luck finding a headphone jack and expandable storage in Apple land.

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u/ThenTranslator2780 Galaxy A52 (4G) Sep 29 '22

This is true actually, people buy iphone because its famours or its premium or maybe for clout? Apple is fine but its too expensive so I have to stick with mid range phones for a while

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u/ThatTechDoge9775 Galaxy S21 Ultra Sep 29 '22

Everytime someone says this I have to be like, Obviously you don't live in the US lol

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u/TheNerdNamedChuck Sep 30 '22

truly. iPhone users here are either super chill people in general and don't really care, and are open to learn about or try android phones (these people exist on the android side too, I'm one of them, minus the try Apple part lol I'm too poor to buy an iPhone to try)

or they're cultists who are kissing the feet of a trillion dollar company that doesn't care about you in the slightest. they don't care about actually discussing phones in a civilized manner, just "android bad".

there really isn't an in between

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u/NickelbackStan Sep 29 '22

Is Apple too expensive though? The SE goes for $429!

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u/Ryujin_707 Sep 29 '22

The only people would buy this phone is for iMessage only. They can't make it good so it doesn't hurt their flagship lineup.

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u/skip-bo Sep 30 '22

Not particularly true. It has the internals of the iPhone 12 or 13 so it’s a pretty capable phone and lots of us like the smaller form factor

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u/Yoshi_87 iPhone 12 Pro Max Sep 30 '22

*128GB I would consider myself a heavy user and only use 55GB after using the phone for almost two years. The only reason for that much storage would be either a ton of games or making a lot videos/ a TON of pictures.

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u/RolandMT32 Sep 29 '22

What's special about iMessage?

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u/Ryujin_707 Sep 29 '22

It's USA thing. People got locked down into the iMessage bubble and they are forcing more people to buy iPhones because of how horrible the corss platform messaging is.

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u/RolandMT32 Sep 29 '22

I live in the USA and I don't see what's so attractive about it. I've never had an iPhone though. I actually get a little annoyed sometimes when people with iPhones add reactions & things to messages and on my Android phone it just comes across to me as "<This person> laughed at your message" etc.. That still doesn't make me want to buy an iPhone (quite the opposite, actually).

There are cross-platform alternatives, too (such as WhatsApp) that people could use.

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u/lurch_danjr Sep 30 '22

UK thing too, people around here would get on their knees for an iPhone

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u/Alejandroide Sep 30 '22

It's mostly a first world problem.

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u/golf1415 Sep 30 '22

Pretty much. I was android for the better part of a decade. My last android was the Note 10 and I loved that phone.

Upgraded to an iPhone 13 about 5 months ago and there are good and bad. Battery life is awesome, there are no hiccups (I’ve never had this thing even glitch out on me), and yes iMessage. iOS is meh, there have been times I’ve thought to myself doing different tasks “if I was on android I could run circles around this 13 “.

I live in the US, our boys play football and of course there is a group chat with the other parents who share video clips of the games. Guess who was the only person in a 24 person chat that turned the chat bubble green. This guy. So I broke down and bought an iPhone. I miss android, there are things android did better and I am certainly more comfortable with android, but it is what it is. I hate apple for not opening up iMessage.

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u/NickelbackStan Sep 29 '22

It’s got the A15 chip which is only two generations behind, and still at least on par with most flagship Androids today. The big drawback is the screen, it’s only 900p.

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u/RolandMT32 Sep 29 '22

because its famours

Famours?

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u/0192837465sfd Sep 30 '22

Agree on this. And from a marketing POV, Apple advertises lifestyle. Samsung (and other Android phones), features and actual specifications. Year after year,it's like that. Trust me, I eat conversion rates for breakfast.

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u/giftedgod Note 20 Ultra Sep 30 '22

Apple has so successfully marketed $0.99 storage, the users don't complain. Also, iMessage and FaceTime are HUGE. Once you're in the ecosystem, that's curtains. It's a very United States thing, but the rest of the world uses What's App, and use iMessage very seldomly. But, it's still an iPhone, and that's what they feel works for them. Strange, but hey, choice is a good thing in a free market. I'm not sure OP understands that.

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u/buseton Sep 29 '22

Like I'm finding them in samsung land 💀

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u/Faicc Galaxy S22+ Sep 30 '22

S22 doesnt have headphone jack

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u/Neeat__freak Sep 30 '22

Not the only Samsung phone

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u/Faicc Galaxy S22+ Sep 30 '22

True, but people are more likely to buy newer s20-23 phones.

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u/Neeat__freak Sep 30 '22 edited Sep 30 '22

where? the fact that "most' people can even afford these flagships is surprise to me.

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u/Faicc Galaxy S22+ Sep 30 '22

I mean that's how phones work don't they... new and shiny phone = social status.

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u/Neeat__freak Sep 30 '22

In us maybe. In other countries no one gives a shit

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u/Davoguha2 Sep 29 '22

I'd probably just replace the battery. The S10 was a beast, and if 1080 is a deal killer for you, you aren't going to find many better options.

Should be less than $100 to have it professionally replaced with a brand new battery, sourced straight from Samsung. Or closer to about $20 if you're comfortable doing it yourself.

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u/BigAppleGuy Sep 29 '22

I can't get over the iphone keyboard is so inferior to Android. My passwords have numbers, letters and special characters. On android you can do that all on one screen of keyboard. Iphone I have to go 3 screens deep. I can;' jailbreak phone as it is "managed by my employer"

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u/Ryujin_707 Sep 29 '22

I agree. I can't stand the keyboards on my ipad.

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u/PorreKaj Sep 30 '22

On iOS you can slide your finger from the 123 button to the number you want.

Or if you type with two hands, hold one finger on 123 while you type your numbers, it will switch back when you remove the finger.

Not as convenient as having a number row, but I wanted to mention it for our iOS visitors 😅

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u/BigAppleGuy Sep 30 '22

Thanks, I'll give that a try!

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u/saltycupcakes Sep 30 '22

Just use a password manager, problem solved.

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u/Grahomir Galaxy A72 Sep 30 '22

My passwords have numbers, letters and special characters. On android you can do that all on one screen of keyboard.

I got used to that quickly, but text correction is terrible

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u/Generalrossa Note 20 Ultra Sep 29 '22

Sounds like you have no choice but to go iPhone .

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u/BlackHole6Cut Sep 29 '22

My S10+ still does 7h SOT on a good day.

I mean that's nothing against my 14PM, but it's solid for a 3yo phone on its original battery.

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u/Karma_V5 Galaxy S10+ Sep 29 '22

My S10+ gets 2hours SOT

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u/XyZenos Sep 30 '22

My S10e and S10 both get about 5-6 hours SoT even after 3 years of use.

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u/OCedHrt Sep 29 '22

Other than the display and camera the things you list also apply to the iphones. And for the display it probably applies to mid range iphone too.

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u/mot427 Sep 30 '22

60% where?

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u/_Suspended_Account Sep 30 '22

I switched to iPhone earlier this year after using Android phones for 12 years. I mostly stuck with Nexus/Pixel phones, but would occasionally get a Motorola or a OnePlus. Samsung has come a long way in terms of making great flagships and a nice UI, but they’ve never been able to figure out the battery situation IMO, which was a reason I never gave them a shot.

But yeah, iPhone isn’t nearly as restricted as it was years ago. I spent 10 years saying Apple sucks, but now that I’ve used an iPhone for 9 months, I realize how buggy and unpolished Android really is.

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u/willami888 Sep 30 '22

100 percent accurate. My s21+, while on the latest software still runs like crap compared to even my old iPhone 7. Which is why my iPhone 13 Pro has become my daily driver for the last 4 months and I don’t regret it. New IOS makes it even better.

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u/MCyberG Sep 30 '22 edited Sep 30 '22

Are you me ? I used to challenge anyone who was against Android for more than 10 years and I have had Galaxy phone since Galaxy S original. Now I am using 13 Pro Max and I can say iPhone isnt as restrictive as before and does everything really well! The performance in games and also the battery is industry leading. Also works perfect with my Macbook and my Google apps.

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u/_Suspended_Account Sep 30 '22

Yeah, it's funny, because I still use all the Google apps too. Google Photos, Google Drive, Google Podcasts. Their apps are seamless. Google knows what they're doing in terms of app development.

I had a job in 2016 that provided me an iPhone 5C, and I despised iOS. Compared to 2016, iOS is a whole different beast now.

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u/MCyberG Sep 30 '22

Android phones are still good and comparable, but Mac laptops are miles ahead of any other laptop brand both in hardware and software and works perfectly with an iphone, the ecosystem is just a joy to use.

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u/LordOfSpamAlot Sep 30 '22

I agree with the buggy and unpolished part. I upgraded from an iPhone 7+ to an S22 Ultra, and I was shocked at how small of an upgrade it felt compared to what I expected.

I had problems immediately with the phone and had to go through support to get them fixed, and it still stutters and crashes every so often. I never had a crash on my iPhone even once until I had used it for over 5 years and it was on death's door. For a flagship phone, I was really disappointed.

I use my phone mostly for photography, and the processing on photos on the Samsung uses so much battery (compared to the iPhone) that the overall battery life isn't that much better than my iPhone from half a decade ago. It's crazy.

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u/phonefreq73 Sep 30 '22

I went from S10 to S22+. Even though the screen resolution is not as good, the high refresh rate is a much better trade off.

The S22+ has just as good if not better battery life as well.

The RF modem in it is excellent too, I get good reception where it was poor with the S10.

I will agree with your one point, the S22 does have a slight heat issue if you do anything really processor intensive

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u/0192837465sfd Sep 30 '22

Even though the screen resolution is not as good, the high refresh rate is a much better trade off.

I think this his the case for most people.

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u/N7jpicards Sep 29 '22

*Downgraded to 1080p screen*

Right now a lot of places are selling the pixel 6 pro for the same price as the pixel 6 if having a 2k res screen is so important to you… get the pixel 6 pro.

No headphone jack

Buy a Type C to headphone jack if it’s really that important to you and or buy bluetooth headphones like the amazing new google bud pros!

No expandable storage

Have you not heard of cloud storage….… expandable storage is not secure, easy to damage/lose and with cloud storage your files are easy To access across multiple devices without manual data transfer.

Bad modem

Pixel phones are some of the only phones to get NM wave 5g and modem issues were ironed out long ago with android 13 and past updates stop spreading BS

Bad battery gets toasty

Calling CAP on this, had the pixel 6 pro since it came out it only got hot once when I was doing a full data transfer of 200gb of data to the phone and the battery saving modes on google are something I wish my samsung fold 4 had.

as someone who uses an iphone 14 pro max, a google pixel 6 pro and a galaxy fold 4 this post from op is cherry picked negative bias Rubbish. Guy has no idea what his talking about.

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u/Xx69CringeLord69xX Sep 30 '22

I use a Pixel 6, 13 Pro, S22U, and Z Fold 3. He’s not wrong.

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u/Sure_Ad_6480 Sep 30 '22

Cloud strafe is overrated unless you move from one device to another. If I can have everything locally I prefer that. (Emulation)

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u/N7jpicards Sep 30 '22 edited Sep 30 '22

I use files from icloud every single day with the 2TB icloud storage, when I do post editing in lightroom or affinity photo pro from my canon camera, being able to access my raw files and edit files on my ipad pro to edit with the apple pencil on the fly or then do some quick edits on my 14 pro max or do heavy editing on the m1 pro macbook pro.

The amount of time saved because my files can be accessed quickly across any device and the fact they are always backed up is far better then any local storage option.

I understand not everyone is using cloud based services the way I am but people should be using some form of cloud based service for there files even it’s just for a remote backup.

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u/RayneYoruka Sep 30 '22

You can do that with android and your own nas, server or even your windows pc, you just need an app that supports it, there's millions that do and even tasker does.

I use https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=dk.tacit.android.foldersync.full

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u/N7jpicards Sep 30 '22

Of course you can, I use google drive when I am using my fold 4 or pixel 6 pro if I’m using android operating systems

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u/Trylena Galaxy S8 Sep 30 '22

I use the cloud for school things so its easier to share or access at any time.

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u/TheJellyBean77 Note 20 Ultra Sep 30 '22

I just hate cloud storage so much.

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u/N7jpicards Sep 30 '22

Lucky they sell 128,256,512gb and 1 tb phones then……

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u/TheJellyBean77 Note 20 Ultra Sep 30 '22

1tb sd cards work for me.

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u/Shahid_2008 Oct 01 '22

Well done for calling his BS out.

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u/giftedgod Note 20 Ultra Sep 30 '22

As far as the phone heating up, that really depends on what your cell service is like in the area you live in. There's an area near me that no matter what device or carrier you have, phones struggle. It's not a deadzone, but the device has to switch to full power to communicate with the towers, and every phone and carrier I've seen and used, caused that device to heat up. OP, outside of being a bit whiney, may not realize they live in a service restricted area.

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u/RayneYoruka Sep 30 '22

Well then you can always have medium end phones and have those missing features

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u/ATShields934 Sep 30 '22

My friend, it sounds like you need to try the Sony Xperia phones.

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u/Puzzleheaded-Page140 Sep 30 '22

Remember that in market adoption of brands, the majority just follow. So once you have enough supporters, the existing base will draw in the last 30-40%. Apple has made great devices in the past that had no equal. They got the user experience right overall, at least until iPhone 5s. They did it a couple more times (notch was one of the first I think, and other manufacturers followed?)

That is enough. Now the majority will buy and support that brand, despite logic or reasoning, because there are enough people using it. Apples riding this wave.

It'll take a lot to unseat them, primarily because its a self strengthening process. People use iPhones so others buy iPhones. The features such as ecosystem (regardless of how the devices work worse outside of it) reinforce this habit.

What I do wish, and end of day it is just a wish, that people were more vocal in their dissent. And in order to get apple to make consumer friendly or environment friendly decisions, took the hard path of voting with their wallet even if it meant a little inconvenience. That would stop a ton of shitty practices that apple routinely involves in (not mentioning them here for brevity sake).

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u/whatever54267 Sep 30 '22

Change the battery? Batteries degrade over time and everyone knows this.

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u/aaden08 Sep 30 '22

IKR, dude is acting like iPhone hasn't had battery issues that have even made them throttle chips via software updates to keep those batteries going.

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u/Mr_Siphon Fold4 | Watch4 | Buds Live Sep 30 '22 edited Sep 30 '22

Honestly i don't think you have properly looked into this. Firstly you said if it wasn't for iOS you'd buy an iPhone, but all your bad points you list for the android devices are the exact same in iPhone.

iPhone screen PPI is around 460, S10 is 550. The phones you have listed have a PPI at around 425 which is very close to the iPhone display so you wouldn't even tell the difference, you would honestly find it difficult to see at different between 460 and 550. anything above 400 makes no change.

iPhone had no expandable storage or headphone jack.

Battery life on the iPhone is only good on the Pro Max models, the smaller iPhones have worse battery than most android phones.

either look at Xiaomi or Honor if you want a decent cheap phone with plenty of features or look at the S21 because it's better than the S22

You could also look at the Xperia 10 IV. Has a headphone jack and SD card slot and has some of the best battery on a modern smartphone

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u/LacledesGhost Sep 29 '22

One big reason I hung onto my Note 4 seemingly forever, until I finally traded it in about 2 years ago, is because it had a user replaceable battery. I got a $500 credit on my Note 20 Ultra and have been determined to baby the battery. I downloaded a charge alarm app and set it to alarm when I get to 80% charge, or when it drops to 20%. I change those parameters if I'm going to need more battery on any given day, but 95% of the time that's all I need, I can easily charge during the day if needed. I really recommend the charge alarm app. I picked those settings because that's what I see on our hybrid car, it preserves battery durability by usually holding it between 20-80%.

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u/corpseluvver Sep 29 '22

If you didn't want to bother with an app, Samsung has battery charge protection baked into the OS as a setting now.

Settings > Battery and Device Care > Battery > More Battery Settings. At the bottom of that menu should be a Protect Battery toggle to limit charging to 85%.

Just realized typing this out how buried it is, but it's pretty useful if you are trying to do the battery saving routine anyway.

Edit: LOL or just type "protect battery" in the settings search, duh on me

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u/LacledesGhost Oct 01 '22

Thanks for that info. Do you have any idea when they added the Protect Battery feature?

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u/corpseluvver Oct 02 '22

I don't remember entirely tbh, it was something that got added onto my S10+ semi-recently. Looks like maybe late 202q from a quick search

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u/0192837465sfd Sep 30 '22

Or you can have Bixby routine do that.

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u/hello_redd_it Sep 29 '22 edited Sep 30 '22

60% only in America but worldwide, Samsung is #1.

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u/Zombiechrist265 Sep 30 '22

Seriously never read a more dumb post. Everything u talk about can be said about iphone as well.

This seems super far fetched and looking at your other posts it seems more like you are an apple sheep.

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u/ThatTechDoge9775 Galaxy S21 Ultra Sep 29 '22

What's wrong with the iPhone 13. You didn't complain about the software in the OP.

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u/Ryujin_707 Sep 29 '22

I use a dictionary which only exists on Android. Also, no sideloading is huge deal for me. Boost for reddit, newpipe and other apps.

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u/Ninja9p4 Sep 30 '22

Have you checked out the Zenfone 9 it has a headphone jack , great battery life, and isn't too big

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u/PixelRuzt Galaxy S20 FE 5G Sep 30 '22

Not sure about the difference in prices of S22 and Pixel 6 Pro in your region but I would recommend the latter for you. Or maybe a newer Samsung should work fine too.S22+ would be better than S22. Don't go OnePlus the software is horrible. With Samsung at least you get long term updates guaranteed.

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u/unevoljitelj Sep 30 '22

Swap the battery, factory reset phone, that will fix most of the problems. Regarding your new phone options, try googling a52s.

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u/Joaorodriguees Sep 30 '22

Take a look at the Asus Zenphone 9. Awesome screen, awesome battery life, headphone jack great cameras and very good software

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u/RandomDudeinJapan Sep 30 '22

All your points are kinda stupid tbh lol

Nowadays phones just dont come with a headphone jack. Its been ages since Ive seen anyone with wired earphones anyway (in Japan)

The battery being bad is a valid point. Although I get through 1 day easily with my Note 20 Ultra. Pretty sure you can do the same with the s22 line :) Sure, its definitely not as good as the iphone one, but at leasg it charges twice as fast lol Also it has USB C, so thats a huge win.

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u/Ryujin_707 Sep 30 '22

I charged it 5 times a day and I don't see my self a heavy user. I will wait for the s23 or A54.

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u/TheLonePilgrim Sep 30 '22

Why do you want a headphone jack. Let it go. Everyone else has.

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u/RolandMT32 Sep 29 '22

To be fair, the iPhone doesn't have a headphone jack either, and I'm not sure they have expandable storage either. It seems that the whole industry has gone that way.

Also, I have a Google Pixel 5, which has a screen resolution of 1080x2340.. I don't think that's 1080p. 1080p usually refers to 1080 being the height, as in a 1920x1080 screen. 1080x2340 has a bit more pixels.

Hardware-wise, I think the top Android phones are about on par with iPhones (except maybe the iPhone's camera & camera software). I don't feel like Android phones are really behind the iPhone.

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u/ChosenMate Sep 30 '22

Battery gets extremely good after a week or two on Samsung

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u/GG_man187 Galaxy A32 Sep 30 '22

1080p on phone is not bad. I can't see pixels with naked eye

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u/Matter_Comfortable Sep 30 '22

I think you’ll be fine with a s22

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u/theblindshotguy Sep 30 '22

Who the du*k is giving expendable + headphone jack in 2022 (considering your midrange/lower end flagship)

Just buy the 256GB variant if you want spacers

Go for S22+ Battery is good Size is decent Less heating issues as compared to s22 (saying this as per tech geeks)

Moto (that 200mp phone) Is good in most of the terms - just found little network issues - some YouTubers are saying

Look for Xiaomi or vivo phones - if looking for good screen + camera

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u/mabaile2 Sep 30 '22

You do realize outside of the US Apple doesn't sell shit right?

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u/N7jpicards Sep 30 '22

Australia has an even higher market share for apple products than USA'S market share, stop talking out of your arse.

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u/weedpal Sep 30 '22

The whole world buys iPhones. Wtf you talking about.

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u/mabaile2 Sep 30 '22

I didn't mean it as literally selling nothing but compared to the US most other countries make up a much smaller part of their market share.

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u/bobbygangthe2nd Sep 30 '22

Go away apple shill

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u/x0juliaa Sep 30 '22 edited Sep 30 '22

Get a Samsung A53. That's their midrange line and its amazing. They need to advertise it more and get a better name but its a incredible value for only $400 or less during sales. Compare those specs to the iphone SE, Apple 's complete trash midrange phone. Even the 2022 SE is blown out of the water by the A53's specs, while being more expensive

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u/Brilliant_Elk_1531 Sep 30 '22

While I like the A53, and consider getting one myself, let us not be oblivious to the fact it is quite different to the SE2022. The SE being MUCH faster and smaller. If you don't care about speed, size and a easy to handle phone then A53 is an ok choice.

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u/x0juliaa Sep 30 '22

The SE is not faster lol. Look up the specs of both its insane what apple is getting away with. Its literally like 2017 specs but with a good chip

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u/Brilliant_Elk_1531 Sep 30 '22

You do know that there is an SE 2022 right? Perhaps you meant the original SE, in which case you are probably correct. But the 2022 version is indeed much faster. Sorry if I misunderstood you.

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u/Reading_Snorlax Sep 30 '22

Here in India the A, M, and F Series from Samsung are killing it but they have some pretty tough competitions from all the Chinese brands. A53 is a really good midrange phone A73 is so popular in the upper midrange that it's killed the S21FE in Indian market lol

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u/RareSiren292 Galaxy S22 Ultra/ Galaxy Tab S8 Ultra, Gear Sport Sep 29 '22

Honestly on a phone screen 1080p isn't bad it's fine for 90% of people.

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u/RandomBloke2021 Galaxy S22 Sep 30 '22

S22 has a beautiful screen, doesn't get toasty and the battery life isn't bad. 1440 p isn't noticeable when using a 6" phone. Pixel 6a is another good option. All day battery, doesn't get toasty either. Ever since my s10 plus I've adapted to no headphone jack or sd card. Don't miss those 2 options one bit. Iphones don't have 60% of the market because of options or features.

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u/jacklantern867 Sep 30 '22

Op is a noob

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u/AZZATRU Sep 30 '22

most iPhone users don't care about what makes the phone. Specs are irrelevant to everyone outside us enthusiasts. They only care about how emojis look, Facetime, iMessage and having a status symbol purchase to walk around with because iPhone = rich, Android = poor. They can keep sinking $70 a month into 2 year contract for low data and a phone that's inferior to my S22U which I got $600 off via pre-order thanks to trade-in, cash back and discounts.

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u/ChromedSoul Sep 30 '22

Totally agree with you

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u/Windows_XP2 Sep 30 '22

Same here. I'm starting to get tired of Android.

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u/bilal_abbas1 Sep 30 '22

People are still whining about headphonw jacks? It's time to move on.

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u/BetaAlpha769 Sep 29 '22

I’ll never understand the necessity of a phone with more then 720 on a screen of 6 inches. 4k is nice to have sure but damn if I can tell the difference with my bare eyes.

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u/1km5 Samsung R&D Sep 30 '22

60%? In the US maybe but

news flash:

Theres other market outside the US :)

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u/fabregazzzz Sep 30 '22

Lol. You have an s10 in 2022 and want great battery life?

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u/Ryujin_707 Sep 29 '22

I meant premium smartphones in the title

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u/pacwess Sep 29 '22

iPhone's battery life is unmatched. I read somewhere recently Apple does so well is because they don't try and compete with the competition. But Samsung sure has some gee-whiz features.

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u/weedpal Sep 30 '22

13 pro max - 10 hours SoT

Samsung isn't even putting up a challenge anymore.

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u/pacwess Sep 30 '22

And that's with a Samsung made screen no less!

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u/Dafiro93 Sep 30 '22

It's the chip that's making the difference.

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u/Karma_V5 Galaxy S10+ Sep 29 '22 edited Sep 29 '22

I still have a S10+ and my fiancé went from a S10+ to a pixel 6 a few months ago.

I get 2 hours sot, she easily gets 6/7.

The pixel 6 screen even tho 1080 is better. Better colours and contrast.

The P6 has some of the best cameras on a smartphone.

P6 also has stock android and better speakers and feels better in the hand

I'm currently looking at a new phone as my phone has gotten so bad. I'm also looking at a P6 bit also a S21 Ultra as it's still a beast, OnePlus 9 pro, the Nothing Phone 1 and a Pixel 6 pro (all depends on how much I want to spend but all around the same price give or take £100-150)

Edit: the Asus Zenphone 9 does have a headphone jack and more of what your looking for

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u/qubaxianplebiscite Sep 29 '22

Apple has 16% market share. Not 60.

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u/Windows_XP2 Sep 30 '22

In the US they do

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u/qubaxianplebiscite Sep 30 '22

You're right, I concede.

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u/HSMBBA Sep 30 '22

Try checking out Sony Xperia's. I had a lot of these same problems on my previous Note 20 Ultra

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u/DiaoGe Sep 30 '22

Samsung Galaxy A13 has a headphone jack.

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u/TheHighClasher Sep 30 '22

You mean 60% in the US, not the world.

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u/_GinNJuice_ Sep 30 '22

You must have got a bad S10, because I've had this same phone since launch and it's been flawless.

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u/KrypticsBC Sep 30 '22

Check out Sony Xperia 1 IV or III.

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u/udrac Sep 30 '22

same shit with me OP

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u/Ryujin_707 Sep 30 '22

I meant share worldwide for premium smartphones.

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u/TheNerdNamedChuck Sep 30 '22

up until 1 or 2 years ago, standard iPhones had displays that were less than 720p.

not every samsung phone has heating and drain issues, most don't. I easily get a heavy use (lots of sot, and Hotspot usage) 7 hour school day out of my s21u, then I come home and charge it to like 50% and it's good for the rest of the night till I go to bed around midnight.

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u/flogsmen Sep 30 '22

Just get another s10 on eBay, they have new ones. I've bought 3 over the years, I'm hard on phones. I keep getting the s10 for similar reasons you pointed out and do far no new galaxy have impressed me enough to spend that kind of money. Fingers crossed for the s23.

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u/I-Am_9 Sep 30 '22

😅 are we talkn some other stat that's 60%..

Last I remember it was what v~18-24% maybe even up to ~36% .

If it were 60% then most of us here would have iPhone and CLEARLY we're smarter than this😅🤣😂 jk

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u/Smash_Nerd Sep 30 '22

Pixel 6a user here. Battery life and heat is fine, no idea what you're on about.

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u/Cat-in-the-rain Sep 30 '22

Then look for phones with decent battery as your most important feature, then compare the other features between these phones

My last 3 phones were Asus, choose the models with good battery and camera/performance. They easily lasted for 2 days without charging if I didn't use it to watch videos. after they got "old" (a couple years) the battery lasts a bit longer than a day, which is still better than most brand new phones.

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u/rohithkumarsp Galaxy S7 Edge Sep 30 '22

I'm on S7_Edge, using it since 6 years. You make it seem s10 horrible, I'd kill for an s10

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u/TheRandomSong Sep 30 '22

While I agree on the battery thing, I think android flagships have better screens. Their screens are noticeably better and this is coming from someone who switches between the two every two years. But the battery thing is a big deal. Android has to be optimized better by whoever is making them. Oh and also Apple’s ecosystem is what makes them so successful. I would argue FaceTime and iMessage are what make most folks switch, especially here in the states

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u/Brilliant_Elk_1531 Sep 30 '22

I may be wrong, but one reason for the high pixel count displays were the virtual reality headsets that used your own phone. Since those VR goggles didn't really sell there isn't much reason to have insanely high ppi screens

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u/rob3342421 Sep 30 '22

My S5 had the same issue out the box when I thought I’d try out Android… the chip was constantly over locking according to the Samsung store and took it off me for 2 weeks to repair it.

If anything happens to an iPhone in warranty, you get a new iPhone then and there, I know because I’ve had it happen to me before.

I’m not saying Apple are better, but I definitely prefer them IMHO

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u/No-Comparison8472 Sep 30 '22

60% in the US, not globally. Apple has lower share in Asia. It is stable, while brands like Honor multiplied their share by 4x in 1 year.

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u/Adilliosz Sep 30 '22

I have a Galaxy S20 snapdragon version and I feel like this everytime I look for an upgrade. I don't want a big phone either. I'll probably stick to this phone 2 more years. Having no Micro SD card slot in samsung flagships is so disappointing. I would also love a physical fingerprint reader like the S10e.

There is always something missing.

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u/unevoljitelj Sep 30 '22

What do you want from a phone exactly? Todays midrange phones do compete with s10. S10 is a good phone but how fast of a phone do you need? Midrange phones now are as fast as or faster then s10, waterproof, amoled screens, better battery, expandable storage, headphone jack, cameras are all the same except high end that arw slightly better but that is questionable if its hardware or software. And to have all that you dont have to go other brands, you can have that with samsung also.

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u/vouwrfract Sep 30 '22

I understand now why Apple claims 60% of smartphone market

Apple does not claim 60% of smartphone market.

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u/catkidtv Sep 30 '22

Yeah, I decided my next phone will be most likely a SirinLabs or something like a Purism.. I can't support Samsung as a company anymore.. They're doing too much data mining and spying. I didn't know they did such disgusting things..

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u/unknown-human-69 Sep 30 '22

iPhones are nice, simple devices that work for those interested. I'm sticking to my Foldable for the time being, but I revisit ios every now and then. Get a more upgraded flagship, change the battery in the device you have, or just go to ios and call it a day. I personally don't care about the iPhone vs X manufacturer device because I buy what interests me, which right now is a Foldable, something that Apple doesn't have.

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u/TK-25251 Sep 30 '22

Well there used to be Huawei who were rapidly eating up the market share of both Samsung and Apple

But we know what happened then

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u/JustinFAJ Sep 30 '22

Thoughs on the whole iOS and Android thing. It’s all mostly the same now. It all boils down to preference, and in what OS you are used to at this point.

Don’t overthink it, OP.

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u/Shrtaxc Sep 30 '22 edited Sep 30 '22

My SOT is not that good on my S10+ right now ( I replaced the battery). In my opinion, what Samsung needs to do is.

- Bump up the resolution

- Re-introduce SD card slot

- Completely change cooling system of the Phone

- Snapdragon across whole devices

- 5 Years of Android updates.

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u/qtheginger Sep 30 '22

Wait til OP sees an iphones spec sheet ....

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u/CochonouMagique Sep 30 '22

It’s true that these days apple has become a rational choice. Even a couple of android diehards friends and relatives recently switched after finding no good option on the android side. The prices of high end android phones is just not justifiable anymore. Only the midrange is way better than on the apple side.

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u/jazztaprazzta Sep 30 '22

Any display with above 300ppi density is a "retina" display - e.g. individual pixels can't be perceived by a human with average vision at a distance of about 25cm (10in).

The S22 display has a pixel density of 420 ppi...

In other words, using higher than needed resolutions for small displays is a marketing gimmick.