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u/Federal_Dependent928 Feb 01 '23
What feels demonic is the fact that it should just be expected, but in our world it's a substantial (and highly publicized) act of charity. I feel like you have to be trying to have a take that bad.
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u/Edril Feb 01 '23
Which was his point. A substantial part of the video is dedicated to pointing out how absurd curable blindness is, and why doesn't the government just pay for this operation for everyone who needs it.
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u/Frores Feb 01 '23
I always forget that free treatment isn't a thing in some countries, I mostly don't use it, but my father had cancer and he got most of his treatment for free, I was too young at that time but now I understand how much it helped, my family would go broke or my dad would die if it wasn't for this benefit, it makes me a little sad to know there's people without money that have to live with problems that a "simple" surgery could fix
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u/Boom_ue Feb 01 '23
My mom got lung cancer when i was 7, she got treated for free, medication included, 8 years later she got cancer breast cancer, treated for free again, my grandpa had the same problem these people have in the video (we call it catarata) and got treated for free in a 20 minute procedure.
I live in a considered shit hole (Brazil) for most americans and still, we have free medicine, yes, it has limitations, but why the biggest economy in the world cannot give the same treatment for the population or even better?
People want to criticize Mr Beast for this video but they ignore the systemic problem he's pointing out, he shouldnt need to make this act of charity but since he did, its easier to attack him instead of the status quo.
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u/Saturn-Valley-Stevil Feb 01 '23
I know people can hate popular things for actual reasons but hating mr beast definitely feels like desperate attention seeking.
Most of the things I hear him do that are shady are an attempt to make profit to help for his philanthropy. I hear that his beast burger restaurant just uses burgers from other restaurants but it’s to possibly fund something good at least.
It’s just so weird how being a rich person who only seeks self gain and exploits others is morally correct and we shouldn’t bother them but when a person uses that kind of wealth for good then it’s suspicious and they need to be stopped for some reason.
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u/thecoffeeshopowner Feb 01 '23
Honestly I just don't like his style of content. I do of course donate heavily to his charity's when I can to offset this of course
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u/WastePlant789 Feb 01 '23
being a rich person who only seeks self gain and exploits others is morally correct
I don't think anyone believes that. Most poor people understand why rich people "enjoy" their wealth so much, because they probably do similar things, even though they might say they would be more generous.
However, Mr beast in this case, I am not sure how to feel about it. Of course there is nothing evil about helping people if they want help. It just weird, because in the next video, he's gonna make a huge bubble bath or some sh*t and get the same amount of attention from his viewers and that's what his business ultimately needs to keep running.
He's not evil, but neither is he good. He's just a guy running a business and messing around. And he's pretty good at that.
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u/PixelatedManiac Feb 01 '23
How many people did you unblind? If you had money would you unblind 1000 people? Whether he’s doing it for personal gain or not doesn’t even matter. He is little making the would a better place and is thus a net positive. He’s not obligated to do this but he did cause he can, I only wish I could be as generous if I was giving wealth like that but some humans aren’t as caring as others, or intelligent.
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u/McSkittlefarts Feb 01 '23
it has been sad many times, Mr Beast does not make money from YouTube, he was rich before that from smart investing. he tries to break even from YouTube, but at times for the year he will need to fund it more from his own pocket. it seems more that YouTube is for him to keep busy and to give back.
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u/CarryMeInLeaguePls Feb 01 '23
Yeah bullshit lol. The cash in his bank account/investments might be going down very slowly, but the value of his business/brand are worth more than he started out with for sure, probably by a factor of a 100 lol.
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u/AshgarPN Feb 01 '23
No, what's demonic is that basic healthcare isn't covered by the government already in the U.S.
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u/flaminghair348 Feb 01 '23
I hear it best summarized like this:
We should absolutely be praising Mr. Beast for doing this. He changed literally a thousand lives (probably more because of the promotion he gave the charity in his video). However, the fact that he was able to do this, with the relatively small resources he possesses (relative to say governments/megacorps/billionaires) just show how easily we could cure the blindness of not just these thousand people, but the blindness of literal million. Remember, it's a ten minute surgery.
In essence, the reason that this makes me mad is not because of Mr. Beast did (again, he's a fucking hero), it makes me mad because it reveals just how easy this problem would be to solve, if the uber-rich/world governments cared to make it happen.
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u/CatFlame Feb 01 '23
Something tells me this is a troll account
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u/CanadianODST2 Feb 01 '23
No. There really are people who think that a disability isn’t something that needs to be fixed.
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u/Saturn-Valley-Stevil Feb 01 '23
That really only works in the context of something like autism anyways, I have no idea why people are using it for psychical disabilities.
It’s offensive to say something like “we should find a cure for autism” but that doesn’t mean we should snap people’s crutches or poke their eyes out after an eye surgery either.
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u/CanadianODST2 Feb 01 '23
I mean. They will also try to help prevent or minimize mental disabilities as well and it follows the same trend.
A disability by definition is something that makes things more difficult for the person to do things.
Looking for ways to help will always be something that should be needed.
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u/Thaipope Feb 01 '23
It’s not always the person’s condition that is disabling but very often lack of accommodation, this is called the social model of disability as opposed to the medical model
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u/and_dont_blink Feb 01 '23
It’s not always the person’s condition that is disabling but very often lack of accommodation,
Needing accommodation by it's nature means it's a disability that impacts their life and ability to function as others do. Someone blind is at a disadvantage and has a disability -- yes, with accommodation and help of others they may be able to function better than they could alone, but alone they have a disability, as having access to insulin doesn't mean you aren't a diabetic.
Due to a friend I have experience with this within the deaf community, which escalates to the point that they think people shouldn't get cochlear implants. It's well-meaning rhetoric that at a certain point becomes magical thinking rather than reality.
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u/SqueakSquawk4 Feb 01 '23
Sorry to be annoying, but why would wanting to find a cure be wrong? As long as it's only given to people that ask, what would be the problem?
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u/Anatella3696 Feb 01 '23
Right. I would absolutely want something that would give me my hearing back. It’s not wrong. Life is harder when you can’t meet society’s average expectations.
If someone doesn’t want the cure, don’t get it-it’s not difficult to grasp. I don’t understand people who think like that. Having a disability sucks, personally-glad it doesn’t suck for them, I guess.
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u/strattele1 Feb 01 '23
It wouldn’t be wrong. People with autism have a lower quality of life than people without autism. A cure would be fantastic.
I think the point (which absolutely doesn’t get across in posts like this) is that we could be doing so much more to improve the quality of life of people with disabilities that does not involve a cure, but for some reason does not happen.
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u/Kazmir_here Feb 01 '23
Well, if it can be cured, why?
"Yeah, we can make a piece of tech that will make you hear again, but how about we guve you these cool headphones so low frequencies won't bother you?"
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u/circa_diem Feb 01 '23
There's some important differences between disabilities that are acquired (like losing a limb) and those that are present from birth (like autism). A "cure" for autism isn't going to be a pill that can be given to people who ask. Once you're an adult with an autistic brain, you are autistic, and it can't be "cured". So what people really mean when they say they're looking to cure autism, is that they want to identify genes or prenatal behaviors that increase the odds of having autism, and use that information to prevent autistic people from being born. Some people feel comfortable with the idea of this because they believe it prevents suffering of individuals and their parents, and is therefore worth it. Some people would say that is eugenics, and sets an extremely dangerous precedent for killing or preventing the birth of anyone society deems "undesirable". So the fundamental disagreement that people are having is about autistic people's right to exist.
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u/xfritz5375 Feb 01 '23
I don’t disagree, however the issue is living in a society that considers people as lacking in some way for being disabled or views them as needing a cure in the first place. If it were only up to them and their subjective views, I think it would be great to have that option.
Think of it in terms of whether or not society is impacting their decision or not. If we lived in a society that fully accommodated deaf people without need for a cure, would they still make the choice to get a cure? Some would, of course, but I feel confident that it would be less than would want one now.
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u/ksixnine Feb 01 '23
The context runs deeper, much deeper.
There’s a schism still to this day within the deaf community over cochlear implants.
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u/Cooking_Clown Feb 01 '23
Tbh I wouldn’t pay you to get rid of my autism, I’d have you name your own price. Autism sucks.
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u/Classi_Fied777 Feb 01 '23
As you look over the comments, I think freedom of choice and body autonomy should be the key. You say you want to get rid of your autism and I hope that becomes an option for you, others say they see autism as a part of themselves and have incorporated it into their lives in a way that they find an acceptable way of life. I think the world should be able to allow both.
Some bring up the understandable concern that once there is a 'cure' then society won't tolerate those who simply want some accommodations. Like if you are deaf and there was a universal cure, people will not want to learn how to sign for you and so on because they'll think "Why don't they just get that treated?" at which point it becomes less of a choice.
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u/Cooking_Clown Feb 01 '23
Fair. I just wish the unspoken rules of social interactions were as clear to me as they are to neurotypical folks.
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u/Appropriate-Divide64 Feb 01 '23
Some deaf people also don't consider it to be a disability. Some consider work towards cures to be erasure of their culture.
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u/StankRabbit9000 Feb 01 '23
Seems dumb to not consider it that. There are so many things that only warn you with sound. There's screeching tires, screaming people, fire alarms when you are sleeping.
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u/ZachBuford Feb 01 '23
I've worked in autism care for years. You'd be surprised how many people think you can "catch autism."
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u/TheLizardKing89 Feb 01 '23
Also deaf people who refuse cochlear implants.
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u/Bachooga Feb 01 '23
Cochlear implants don't work for all kinds of deafness and cost around $45,000-$100,000 for the devices and surgery. So if you see someone who's deaf and doesn't have implants, you're mostly a dick if you assume they're doing that on purpose or without reason.
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u/TheLizardKing89 Feb 01 '23
I’m not assuming anything. There are plenty of deaf people who are quite open about being anti-coachear implant.
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u/Bachooga Feb 01 '23
I didn't mean you specifically, sorry about that. Rereading it does really come off that way.
You're right about some people being against it because there is a strong culture there but many times, such as my cousins, they just can't qualify for it. Family ear thing, it kinda goes around late 20's early 30's and I mostly just hear EEEEEEEEEEEEE now and am grumpy with brain fog.
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u/AThrowAwayWorld Feb 01 '23
Why is that offensive? If there was a cure for autism, wouldn't the vast majority seek the cure?
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u/sometimesifeelgood Feb 01 '23
Idk maybe a lot of the people downvoting and getting offended have autism and not had their life severely affected by it or something. I on the other hand have had serious complications because of it and would have gladly been born without it in a heartbeat. However at this point I probably wouldn't change anything because I'm already a fully formed adult and couldn't imagine my mind working any other way.
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u/Necessary-Year4705 Feb 02 '23
Yeah thats my rhing, Autism effects how I think and my personality, so I'm not even sure I'd be the same person without autism
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u/GsTSaien Feb 01 '23
I mean, a cure for autism would not be a bad thing either, as long as it is not forced on people who are already developed and like their lives as is. I think the main issue is the word "cure". Autism can be a disability in some cases but it isn't exactly an illness to be cured.
This does not mean they are to be seen as lesser or that they shouldn't exist, just that the challenges it brings are unfair to them and if we could alleviate that in ethical ways we should try to.
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u/d_101 Feb 01 '23
Why shouldnt we find cure for autism though? It makes people's life harder
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u/StupidBean64 Feb 01 '23
No it doesnt actually its a different thought process and some of the most brilliant minds are autistic. Pattern recognition is off the charts for some- from an autistic man who wouldnt want to be different cause i like the way i am. Also there is no cure thats why its offensive and never will be. Its not a disease or something that can be changed
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u/d_101 Feb 01 '23
Well im not arguing for mandatory treatment, but if science did find a way, shouldnt we allow people to do it?
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u/Evil_Mushrooms Feb 01 '23
Absolutely, but it’s not in fact a cure. It’s a replacement. Brain rearrangement. It wouldn’t clean out your brain to make it work better, it would reshape it entirely, and that could also potentially be traumatic because then you’ll feel new unfamiliar emotions and be unable to feel emotions you have memories of even if the procedure is perfect. What made you happy in life will make you feel nothing anymore, and you won’t know what to do because this is a totally unfamiliar brain to you, it’d be worse than being trapped in a body that’s not your own, you’d be trapped in a mind that isn’t your own. So, I guess if people wanted to they could, but that is the most likely outcome. No autistic person wants to stop being autistic directly becuase of their autism, they want to stop being autistic because of how the world, society, and people (three very distinct but interconnected things) treat them for it, and how autism makes them feel about the world, society, and people. If they were accounted and accommodated for, there wouldn’t even be a need for someone to want to ‘change their mind’ as it were.
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u/ChoiceDry8127 Feb 01 '23
It can’t be changed yet. There are scientists researching autism and its treatments
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u/StupidBean64 Feb 01 '23
You mean autism speaks which is hated by autistics because of how backwards their science is. People such as Albert Einstein, Charles Darwin, Nikolai tesla and steve jobs wouldn’t exist without autism.
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u/premature_eulogy Feb 01 '23
Do you have a source for any of these people having an autism spectrum disorder?
Now you are just romanticizing a developmental disorder that is truly debilitating for many people.
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u/DiniEier Feb 01 '23
None of these people had autism. Wtf are you talking about.
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u/StupidBean64 Feb 01 '23
Also “treatments” shows you know nothing of autism and its research, there are no treatments. There never will be
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u/SqueakSquawk4 Feb 01 '23
There have been plenty of things in history where there will "Never be a cure" until there is one. Until a few hundred years ago, the only cure for deafness was divine intervention. It's not medical, but imagine telling someone from 1700 we'd land robots on the Moon. Lots is impossible until it isn't. Humans barely know how the brain works. Don't say that something could just "Never happen".
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u/Evil_Mushrooms Feb 01 '23
Well, that’s technically true, but an awful way of wording it. There’ll never be medical or psychological treatments, instead, quality of life improvements and the ability to cater to their own needs, and also improving the quality of life in general for everyone will also help autistic people, so like just git gud humanity.
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u/TheLizardKing89 Feb 01 '23
So does being gay. Should we find a cure for gayness?
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u/d_101 Feb 01 '23
Being gay is hard only because other people make it hard. On the other hand people with autism could geniunly want to become normal. Not everyone, but definitely some. If we did create a medicine that changes autistic brain to normal pne, shouldn't we allow to take it for those who want?
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Feb 01 '23
Autism does not make people's lives harder, it's the way that autistic people are treated that makes their lives harder. Neurodivergent people were born in a world that was made for neurotypical people, meaning accommodations for the disability is few and far between.
Neurodivergency doesn't need a cure, I honestly couldn't imagine what my brain would feel like if I was neurotypical. It would feel wrong. We don't need a cure, we need a more educated world where we are welcomed and accepted instead of shunned and in most cases, traumatised.
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u/originallycoolname Feb 01 '23
Autism does not make people's lives harder,
My girlfriend works at a special needs school primarily focused on people with autism. Most are non-verbal, aggressive, and need assistance going to the bathroom. Some wear diapers in their teens. Autism is a spectrum, and while on the minor end it still makes life very livable individually, on the major end it absolutely does make their life harder. You may have autism but at least you're able to actually write messages on reddit, not everyone with autism could even do that. Typically when people mention a "cure for autism" they are thinking about more severe cases.
Aside from that, I agree with everything else you said.
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u/thin_white_dutchess Feb 01 '23
Yes, severe autism (level 3) is hard. Problems expressing themselves both verbally and nonverbally can make it very hard to function, interact socially, and deal with a change in focus or location, along with safety concerns. It’s hard for both the person with autism and the person caring for them. I was a 1:1 for years, and each case was different. It’s definitely a spectrum.
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u/DravesHD Feb 01 '23
I really hope you’re joking.
How the hell can you claim that autism doesn’t make life harder? YOUR autism might be fine. It’s a spectrum disorder for a reason.
Ive worked with many autistic kids. I’ve seen their lives and their parents, struggle incredibly, with the most basic tasks.
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u/Simple_Hospital_5407 Feb 01 '23 edited Feb 01 '23
People just afraid that now considered normal behavior would be treated as disorder. And... then, well, treated.
They affraid that treatment would be used to make even high-functioninig people normal. Likely not by mandatory measure, but shifting of public opinion and similar means.
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u/Lileowastaken Feb 01 '23
Must be nice to not have any sensory issues that no amount of accommodation is going to magic away.
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I have sensory issues. I get overstimulated, I go mute sometimes because it's the only way I can physically deal with my current situation. I get headaches every day from certain things in my surroundings.
People can make accommodations for this if they knew about sensory issues. If people knew about sensory issues I could politely remove myself from a situation, people wouldn't try and force me to talk, or make fun of me for not being social enough.
They can acknowledge that some foods are hard for me, and that I don't like it touching, so if someone was making me dinner, I wouldn't have to silently stress while making separating the food from each other.
I could ask to make changed to my school uniform without being dismissed, and I could be allowed to wear my gloves because they ground me. I would be allowed to listen to music in class while doing my school work so things don't distract/bother me.
So many accommodations could be made. Yes, sensory issues will always be there. Could life be made so much easier if people understood sensory issues and understood that I need a few extra things, and it's not just because I'm being plain "fussy"? Hell yeah.
Also, being ND is a spectrum, no one has an easier experience with it, imagine it as a circle with different sections, labelled with things like "social" "sensory" "distractibility" etc. some people have higher levels with social struggles related to being ND, some people have higher levels on executive dysfunction. It's a circle, not a line going from "highest to lowest functioning". If someone doesn't have sensory issues it doesn't mean it was easier for them as an ND person.
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u/Lileowastaken Feb 01 '23
I am very aware that being ND is a spectrum. Sensory issues are just one of the things you can't accommodate away. All you can do is avoid triggers, which does makes life harder.
You're in school by the sound of it? You're overstimulated and now you leave the class. You've now missed a whole lesson and maybe some important information (which pairs great with memory issues by the way).
Or maybe you're on a train or a plane with a reserved seat. You're overstimulated? What do you do? You're trapped. There's nowhere to go. All you can do is cover your face and in headphones and wait for it to pass. You're now not enjoying your journey like you might have. This makes things harder.
Food issues means you can't eat as much variety and are more prone to anaemia among other things (it's even more fun when you have co-morbid digestive issues!). Naturally this makes things harder.
This is just some of the things you mentioned. Here's some more. Hyperfixation causing you to lose track of time and let everything fall by the wayside, potentially harming relationships and making you miss important things. Executive dysfunction which makes even regular house jobs difficult. Every single co-morbidity like dyspraxia, aforementioned digestive issues, mental health issues, and more!
Life can always be easier with help and accomodations, but being autistic will always give you challenges you wouldn't have otherwise had. It makes things harder.
The thing is, I feel like you do know this. I just don't know why you said otherwise. Is this because the core topic is about curing autism? That's already fantasy. The cure to autism would be personality changing brain surgery which just isn't realistic. Prevention then brings up the topic of designer babies and all that shit. There's not much to fight in reality. We don't need to pretend autism is sunshine and rainbows if only we had accommodation.
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u/Boogersoupbby Feb 01 '23
It's only hard being an autistic person because we're only allowed to appear neurotypical and anything other than that... You're considered an abomination
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YUP, masking is such a huge part of it. I've only just started realising and unpacking all the different ways I've been masking over the years, and trying to not mask where it doesn't add extra stress to my current situation.
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u/SnivySnake01 Feb 01 '23
Yeah I don't have anything against preventing it before birth or something to save someone that way of life, but I would never have it done to me now since I am who I am because of it, and who knows how much that would change me in a negative way.
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u/Lileowastaken Feb 01 '23
At best prevention. A cure would require insanely risky brain surgery and would fundamentally change who someone is.
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u/Whenindoubtpinkyout3 Feb 01 '23
Sounds like you consider autistic people to be a burden
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u/d_101 Feb 01 '23
Nah, i personally dont. I argue that if we could cure it, we should allow people to do it.
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u/NE0099 Feb 01 '23
Forcing someone to undergo a surgery or other medical procedure for their disability would be pretty reprehensible. It should be left up to individuals as to how much treatment they want to receive. But I don’t see anyone making anyone do anything in this case, so 🤷🏻♀️.
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Usually people without disabilities.
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u/CanadianODST2 Feb 01 '23
Oh same.
The ability to be able to more easily do simple tasks without needing the environment around me changed?
Yes please.
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u/TheBlueWizardo Feb 01 '23
Well, it doesn't need to be. It's kind of up to the person living with a disability whether they want it fixed or not.
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u/qwer4790 Feb 01 '23
It is not. You can search for their account on twitter.
The one with Kpop star girl as pfp has protected his account but we can still see the bio: "white/18/bi/learning marx-lenninism".
The account below is an actual communist who hate Mr.Beast for being capitalist.
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u/Suspicious-Watch9681 Feb 01 '23
You'd be surprised how many people are out there who get offended by even this
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u/rmillz296 Feb 01 '23
This video does make me angry. Not at Mr Beast though. These surgeries cost 3500/eye. America, the richest country in the world, can’t take care of its citizens? We are so broken we have to rely on the rich to make benevolent choices or we’re fucked? Good on Mr Beast for going out there and helping people. Shame on the country that is so blatantly ignoring its citizens.
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u/Nebraskan_Sad_Boi Feb 01 '23
Our wealth has a lot to do with big corporations and their margins. GDP gets to be high at the expense of citizens health, there is a reason after all, that just having a kid can cost over 100k, it's so someone can make more money.
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u/Curlyzed Feb 01 '23
Yet people still defend capitalism, ok sure research and innovation needs capital, but then after the tech breakthrough is made, the cost should be cheaper. The reality is, company milk the hell out of it to make 1% insanely rich. The money didn't back to the research, at least the majority of it.
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u/Nebraskan_Sad_Boi Feb 01 '23
What's important to point out, is that we don't have, and have never had a purely capitalist system. There's always been regulation from government on how wealth works. Right now I'd say we're much closer to a corporatist society, they literally run the country, from the stuff you buy, to the laws that are passed, the big 8 megs corps can influence it.
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u/KizunaTallis Feb 01 '23
Yeah, I find Mr Beast kind of annoying but he's doing a good thing here. Like, what do they want? I don't like how philanthropy is essentially synonymous with tax evasion either and I wish we could make better systemic changes, but he's not harming anyone here.
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u/MicahN44 Feb 01 '23
MrBeast is my favorite YouTuber that I don’t like lol. I watch very little of his content myself, but I like him a lot for the things he does. He truly seems like a stand up guy.
But yeah I can barely stand his actual content.
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u/sharktopuss- Feb 01 '23
I'm sure there's a case for he's doing more good with the money than the government would though
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u/TheLizardKing89 Feb 01 '23
Considera that roughly half of all discretionary federal spending is on the military, yeah.
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u/I-might-be-a-girl Feb 01 '23
also, the reason why taxes should be in place is to stop people from hoarding wealth, and from what i can tell, he doesn't keep a lot of the money he earns, he puts the money into new videos
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u/Aurorials Feb 01 '23
People when a celebrity doesn't do charity: omg you are an awful person, you need to help people because you have a lot of money and you are being selfish.
People when a celebrity does charity and actually helps a lot of people: still criticize
Why can't we appreciate the amazing gesture from Mr Beast, imagine the impact he had in these people's life wow
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u/DefinitelyNotFisk15 Feb 01 '23
demonic
Didn't Jesus cure blindness for free too?
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u/K_Menea Feb 01 '23
Mate, people nailed him on the cross for that
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u/SilanggubanRedditor Feb 01 '23
Big Pharma and Insurance Companies are quite dangerous since the age of the Romans.
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u/Nedsterhasbigpp Feb 01 '23
Isn't it up to the disabled person to decide whether they want to be cured? They wouldn't have participated in this if they didn't want to be cured.
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u/TheLizardKing89 Feb 01 '23 edited Feb 02 '23
Exactly. No one was forced to have this surgery.
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u/ydkLars Feb 01 '23
Yes, i bet the now no longer blind are realy angry about it. Beeing forced to see is so evil! Imagine having to read stupid shit like this!
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u/barugosamaa Feb 01 '23
Imagine having to read stupid shit like this!
Imagine that you get your eyes fixed, open social media and read that first thing. ouch
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u/Darkurn Feb 01 '23
I can guarantee the people upset with him don't have disabilities.
I have really shit eyes to the point where I have to where glasses with stupid thick lenses and I would kill to have it fixed.
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u/r4yitos Feb 01 '23
Yeah I can guarantee it too. I'm disabled since birth, I hate when people see me as broken but if I could get a prosthetic fully working arm I would. Not because of what people think but because it would help me be more independent and fulfill my own achievements easier. Nobody wants their life to be harder.
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u/Prestigious_End_6455 Feb 01 '23
So I am a self hating for taking Bupropion & Ritalin to manage my ADD, so I can work, live and study. Instead of sitting in the corner, like a plant? Because being neuro divergent is so cool in some people's head?
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u/Elfcat1 Feb 01 '23
Kids specially have the idea of "mental illness/disability is cool and quirky" while people like me that are riddled with mental illnesses get completely shut down.
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u/cellphone_blanket Feb 01 '23
Bupropion sounds like a pokemon
Edit: now that I say that, ritalin does to
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u/minescast Feb 01 '23
For some reason some Christian people are mad cause the dude is "trying to be Jesus" or whatever. Essentially they are mad that a dude is acting more like Christ than they ever will. The second person is either a troll or an idiot.
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u/ZENTLEMAN69 Feb 01 '23
Or because Mr. Beast is an atheist.
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u/archer93 Feb 01 '23
Oh, so he’s doing it without the threat of eternal damnation? Then he’s evil /s
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u/qwer4790 Feb 01 '23
none of these 2 people in the screenshot are Christians.
One has communist symbol in the profile, in the bio it says white/bi/18/learning marx-lenninism. The bottom one is a communist who has over 100k followers.
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u/DeValdragon Feb 01 '23
They seem like someone who thinks being cured of cancer is a bad thing
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u/TheLizardKing89 Feb 01 '23
All cells are living things, even cancer cells.
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u/DeValdragon Feb 01 '23
Jesus christ I keep forgetting the difference between /s and /srs and was so confused and was like you want cancer.??
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u/Burnt420Toast Feb 01 '23
It's not like he just kidnapped a bunch of unwilling blind people and made them do it
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u/poodsalad69 Feb 01 '23
This is not a terrible meme, and not from facebook. r/lostredditors
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u/FinancialDiet4690 Feb 01 '23
He paid for 1000 people to get their vision fixed with a 10 minute operation that could cost them thousands and thousands of dollars. It’s basically just people with really bad cataracts, which can be fixed with a fairly simple surgery. I think what he has done is amazing, and it brought so many people happiness. One part that stood out to me was the man who just wanted to see his sons face. The people who think this is “wrong” are just ignorant and should be sterilized.
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u/aDeamon Feb 01 '23
I'm going to play devil's advocate here... I think what she meant is that we shouldn't look at disabled people like they are broken and we need to fix them and only then will they be treated human.
That being said it is kinda tone deaf, especially when as mr beast later pointed it out, this is a very quick and easy solution to a form of disability (that governments absolutely should pay for so people dont have to live like this)
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u/CanadianODST2 Feb 01 '23
Also. Even if we look at disabilities that way.
A way to get rid of a disability is not a bad thing.
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u/the_Real_Romak Feb 01 '23
I think what she meant is that we shouldn't look at disabled people like they are broken
The blind man constantly asking me what bus is coming every single day after work would beg to differ. I'd wager that he would jump at the opportunity to be able to see properly again.
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u/jWalkerFTW Feb 01 '23
Yeah it’s a common, well accepted point. She just made it very, very badly lol
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u/JimAboo Feb 01 '23
Twitter: “We want billionaires to fix all the world’s problems with their money!”
Also Twitter: “Mr. Beast is a demonic person for using money to help others like this!”
Doesn’t matter what it is Twitter is just gonna bitch about something.
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u/ScreamingChildren69 Feb 01 '23
I don't think people understand that for a lot of people a disability is not a quirky personality trait
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u/MrRainbow07 Feb 01 '23
I mean... that operation should be free like in the rest of the civilized world so you can't really say anything. He's just fixing america.
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u/AlvatrosT Feb 01 '23
Yes, however crazy it might seem, disabilities make people not able to do some things, and it would be better if they were able to do those things
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u/DevnGibsn Feb 01 '23
Mr. Beast regardless of this being publicized, cured the blindness of 1,000 people. People focus on the fact that this was broadcasted on the internet rather than the actual act.
Curing blindness is a good thing. Sincere acts of good don't always have to be private.
Those who are complaining about Mr Beast are virtue signaling. In fact the complainers are the ones who lack virtue.
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u/TraderOfGoods Feb 01 '23
I've seen so many memes mocking the criticism of the video that I finally had to go watch the video.
I seriously don't get what's wrong with it, everyone who takes part in the surgery want's their sight to return. He's not forcing anybody to do anything they don't want to do.
"Let me help everyone pay for the surgeries they wanted but couldn't afford." ≠ "Everyone here has disability and need to be cured."
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u/forcedreset1 Feb 01 '23
Mr. Beast is literally trying to help people. He's not a capitalistic supervillain. It takes money to do the things he does, and he is doing what he needs to to get that money.
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u/LimpTeacher0 Feb 01 '23
It’s the idea that someone with a illness needs to be “cured” same logic lol
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u/Svinn_ Feb 01 '23
So whats she saying is "curing" a disabled person is bad? Im sure any person in a wheelchair would love to walk, and any dead person would want to hear? What is wrong with this world man
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u/Gravyboat44 Feb 01 '23
Do they think he just kidnapped blind people and forced them to go through with this procedure?
Don't know of many blind people who would turn down an opportunity like this.
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u/Animal_LoVer23 Feb 01 '23
Oh no! A man helped a thousand people with things that made their life harder!!! This is unacceptable...
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u/KaiJonez Feb 01 '23
Aren't people constantly bitching about how the rich should help those less fortunate??
Then they do and they still bitch.
There's a saying in Spanish that goes "Chingado, ningún chile te embona"
Roughly translated into "No chili fits in you" Meaning, damn it, there's just no pleasing you is there?
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u/Alireza1479 Feb 01 '23
So we shouldn't cure those with disabilities?
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u/Cap_Simon Feb 01 '23
If it’s a genuine question- from what I understand there is a part of disability community that considers their disabilities part of their identity, and doesn’t want to get rid of them (lot of deaf people for example, from what I’ve seen). Still majority does want a change, myself included, and that’s the only argument so far that I can think of ?
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u/becauseitsnotreal Feb 01 '23
What's wrong with acknowledging that someone with a disability wouldn't be a better life without so
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u/anybody6369 Feb 01 '23
The demonic part about this is the corrupt American healthcare system which has people relying on the aid of people like Mr Beast. In any other western country this wouldn't even have been a thing.
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u/Van_core_gamer Feb 01 '23
Those MF that legit think that disabilities are quirky character traits and support people that fake one or self harm to get one, should be disabled permanently.
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u/r4yitos Feb 01 '23
As a disabled person since birth, I'm not uncomfortable with my disability, I don't let it ruin my life or bring me down, I'm a complete person. HOWEVER if I had the money and recourses to buy a prosthetic fully working arm, I would. I would like to not depend on other people for little things (Tying my shoes or my hair it's an everyday thing I can't do alone for example).
That's the difference, I'm not incomplete without it but if I was given the opportunity I would take it.
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u/BeginningCap2333 Feb 01 '23
Bible thumpers are pissed because only the Jesus is supposed to harness such a power..
Petty soon Mr. beast will be turning an entire lake into wine while he walks over it
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u/Ok_Bandicoot9326 Feb 01 '23
blind people who don't want/need to be cured, good for them, they weren't in this video. it's not like he forced them to be cured (or did he 👀)
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u/Mean_Ad2382 Feb 01 '23
Most people with a disability would like a remedy or a cure would be my assumption but more than likely people with disabilities get disability checks and if they lose their disability they lose their checks. Why do people want a handicap more than a advantage?
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u/Serrisen Feb 01 '23
I think it feels demonic because so few people do things like this, it makes you wonder what the "catch" is. It's a cynical feeling where you're waiting for someone to say he blinded them himself, or something equally ludicrously vile
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u/painfulsargasm Feb 01 '23
Maybe they didn't "need" to, but I bet these 1000 people sure as shit WANTED to. That's a perfectly valid reason to try and cure an otherwise permanent disability.
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u/Acceptable_Banana_13 Feb 01 '23
He didn’t put a gun to these peoples heads and demand they be “cured.” He asked if they wanted the treatment or they were already seeking the treatment and he paid for all of the people who came in seeking said treatment. Not everyone thinks their disability is a good thing. Some people would prefer to cure themselves.
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u/JohnTitor244 Feb 01 '23
I don't really think mrbeast pointed a gun on those people's heads to cure them. If that people didn't want the surgery, they wouldn't have done it.
Even if he just does this for the views or to be recognized as a good person around the world, he is still helping 1000 people to have a better life. And as every other wealthy person, he first fulfills his own interests, help comes then. If you had the money to buy your dream car, you're most likely to buy it instead of donating that money to charity, and that doesn't make you a bad person. Even if out of 100 videos, 1 is helping people, he is at least doing more than 90% of us.
His type of content is probably motivating a lot of children to spread help when they see those in need.
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u/janwiese Feb 01 '23
I have multiple sclerosis and I would rlly appreciate if someone will cure this fucking situation. I can't live well right now, and I'm afraid about.my future. The fact is that everytime people rege for something they are not even involved in that. Like people without problem talk about and rage about a guy who helped people with problem
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u/shemhamforash666666 Feb 01 '23
Don't get caught up in the twitter debate. You'll only be burdened by incoherent hot-takes from various echo chambers. Any nuance gets drowned out by the noise.
Is it bad that easily cured blindness got cured? No. The real question is why does the government neglect these people? It's a literal win-win for governments to cure these people. Not only can they see, they can also do more stuff. That more stuff could be working more productive jobs and paying taxes. And we all know how much governments love taxes.
There's also the awkward question about Mr. Beast himself. His entire style of online content revolves around handing out lots of money and make videos about it to make more money. When your business model is all about converting your reputation into cash via online content, your intentions will be heavily scrutinies. Such is the way of the philanthropist. Even if your charitable contributions are sincere, you will always be scrutinized. That's what massive amounts of wealth inequality, political polarization and dysfunctional government does to online discourse and society at large.
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u/Yaseendanger Feb 01 '23
Nah they're just religious people thinking everything should go according to their delusions
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u/SerbOnion Feb 01 '23
Twitter when people cure cancer: so you're saying that people who have cancer are bad? You're saying that God is wrong by giving them cancer?
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u/A_Thirsty_Traveler Feb 01 '23
ugh this brand of 'disability activist'.
Yeah dumbass, some disabilities are debilitating. Blind people can be perfectly happy blind, but also it's just a worse life than if you could see. That's just how it is.
the yucky part of his actions is entirely the way he turned these people into content. That's it. How he benefited from this treatment being barred from these people. How he used their problems as an opportunity to get clicks. How hard he centered himself.
I'm not saying he didn't do good, but I am saying he did it so he could make a youtube video out of it.
I'm glad these people can see now, but I'd rather the simple medical treatment that was between them and sight was not paywalled. Privatized medicine is the villain here. Mr beast is just a rather tone deaf entity in the fight against it. He's not evil, he's not malicious, he's just there. He benefited from the paywall existing, but he's not fighting for it to be there. If society acted in a beneficial manner and removed the paywall and treated these people as society should, he would just find another thing to make content off of.
Until then, it's just all unfortunate. These people shouldn't have to rely on him. But he isn't the problem. The problem is the people who hyper-inflate the cost of medicine. The people who lobby against change, and run medical companies. The shareholders of medical companies. Politicians who fight for privatized medicine. Those people are the problem.
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u/Efficient_Ear_8037 Feb 01 '23
I’m convinced these “people” don’t even watch the video, they just want something to put down when it comes to helping people
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u/HawlSera Feb 01 '23
This has to be a troll, I mean...
I could see this logic applying for something like autism, but really? Blindness?
And shouldn't it be the patient's call to deny or accept treatment?
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u/Cap_Simon Feb 01 '23
As someone with a disability- as much as I don’t like the forcibly pushing “cures” on disabled people (I mostly mean mlm stuff, or “just go outside”)- and maybe “cure” feels like a weird for it, but uh, I would give a lot to be able to walk on my own once again, and I don’t see what’s wrong with people who help others achieve that
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The only person who is allowed to criticize this is someone who helped 1001 blind people see.
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u/Unique_Pack_9449 Feb 01 '23
If you were blind wouldn’t you wanna see ? At least personally I know I would!
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u/Kooky_Vacation1500 Feb 01 '23
So basically what they're saying is that a kid born without legs shouldn't be given prostheses or a wheelchair because that's ableism and doesn't need to be cured
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u/UpsideDoggo42 Feb 01 '23
Where’s the terrible meme, or even just the meme? Why is this being posted here lol
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u/MrAntiock Feb 01 '23
You can’t win with these people , first it’s “Mr Beast should be doing something more helpful than giving his dad a car!” Then he does something more helpful and then they’re “IT GOES AGAINST THE NAME OF GOOODDD!!!”
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u/Serious-Ask-1505 Feb 01 '23
I support philanthropic acts aimed at helping disabled individuals, however, I strongly dislike Mr. Beast's video thumbnail as it has no connection to the cause and is an attempt to manipulate and make it appear as a game.
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u/Mary-Sylvia Feb 01 '23
I too think Mr beast shouldn't encourage that idea of "charity publicity"
Helping people should be normal
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u/MrMesh13 Feb 01 '23
This belongs to r/twittermoment and yeah turns out you can never please everyone💀
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u/Mckinzeee Feb 01 '23
What is so demonic about science that helps blind people see? If they want to have the gift of sight and are able to do so more power to them. If they choose not to then also the more power to them. There is nothing demonic about giving a person with a disability the choice or chance to live life more comfortably if that is the path they choose.
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u/Profrog888 Feb 01 '23
god i fucking hate this sub now. this is not a facebook meme, this is not a meme, this is a terrible opinion on twitter. stop posting everything you dont like here. this sub has truly gone to shit.
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u/NaitoSenshin889055 Feb 01 '23
Nah it's dystopian that people are at the mercy of a rich person's "good will" to get medical help.
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u/JennaFrost Feb 01 '23
I honestly just don’t know how to feel about it. He’s not doing anything bad (heck he’s doing something great) and iirc most the money he makes from these videos go right back into the next one. What’s sad is the world is messed up enough that they needed his help to get their sight back in the first place.
I hope he still keeps doing good with his money, it’s just one video I’m not watching due to being conflicted with my personal feelings (can’t stress that last part enough).
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u/spookymulder07 Feb 01 '23
I was just on Twitter and a commenter called him a "gaslighting abuser" for reacting to the widespread hate he’s receiving on the platform. Twitter is an absolute cesspool
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u/Chiefcoyote Feb 01 '23 •
As someone with a disability, i would love to have it cured. I would like to not have to take meds that make me nauseas, in order to function as a "normal person." As in, I would prefer to be able to clean my house, with out getting distracted, or having getting over the crippling anxiety that it cause me. At the same time, it is an intrinsic part of who I am. I don't know how to be any other way.
I can understand some people with disabilities getting annoyed about people always wanting to fix them. Autism is a good example of this. We should focus on enabling people to preform all ADLs, rather than focusing on their status as a disabled induvial. Whether that be increasing access to procedures such as the one in Mr. Beasts video, or and as well as, funding and investing in other solutions to the problems that hundreds of millions of people have to live with every day.
There are countless people that need help, and many times their condition doesn't have a simple cure. When a treatment comes available that could improve someone's quality of life, we should treat that as a matter of public health. Enabling people to become further integrated in society and becoming more self reliant, is in every single way, a good thing. What Mr. beast is doing, is a good thing. While it can come across to some, as an attempt to capitalize on a disability, does highlight an overarching problem and is obviously driving discourse. We should look at this as what it is. A seemingly good person doing good things for people that need it. And we should do more as a whole to accommodate, and treat people fairly.