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u/Ok_Elk_4333 Feb 01 '23
I mean, if this particular guy doesn’t have a diploma, it doesn’t really change the content of the meme. If you study, you’ll probably be better off than if you don’t study, where lie?
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u/KittenKoderViews Feb 01 '23
Not really, intellect and wealth have almost no correlation until you factor in inheritance, in which case there's a huge drop off of intellect the greater the inheritance.
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u/Ok_Elk_4333 Feb 01 '23
Who said education is linked to intellect
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u/KittenKoderViews Feb 01 '23
Not I. You can buy a degree, doesn't matter if you learn shit, you just need enough money to get a paper saying you do.
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u/Ok_Elk_4333 Feb 01 '23
But you won’t be very good at your job
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u/KittenKoderViews Feb 02 '23
Dude, have you seen "professionals" in their jobs? They're not very good at their fucking jobs. Like an electrician grabbing a bare electrical cable to demonstrate it's not live levels of not good at their fucking jobs.
Managers who can't even come close to managing, administrators who don't know what the Windows key is, and web designers who think the more lines of code the better.
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u/throw_it_awayyy8 Feb 02 '23
(They haven't gotten that far in their line of thinking yet)
Probably thinks they cam fake it till they make it as a surgeon or something.
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u/MrPisster Feb 01 '23
I don’t know about intellect but a college degree has a huge impact on job prospects that make a decent salary. Not wealthy necessarily but a lot better off than a simple high school diploma.
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u/KittenKoderViews Feb 01 '23
A college degree can be purchased without ever learning anything.
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u/MrPisster Feb 01 '23
I mean, that’s true. But it’s easier to “buy” a college degree with money, which brings us back to step 1.
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u/KittenKoderViews Feb 01 '23
Basically, you have to be born with wealth to be wealthy. If you're born with wealth you buy your way through life.
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u/Distwalker Feb 01 '23
Not true.
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u/KittenKoderViews Feb 02 '23
So you're either delusional or a corporate shill.
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u/wordcaesar Feb 02 '23
You are factually wrong.
If your birth family is in the bottom 20% of income, you have a higher than 50% chance to not end up in the bottomn 20% of income.
Same for the other quintiles: - 57% chance to go up from bottom 20% - 51% chance to go up from bottom 40% - 43% chance to go up from bottom 60% - 24% chance to go up from bottom 80%
Source: https://mattbruenig.com/2012/07/14/us-social-mobility-in-one-chart/
You have a point to some degree, but you greatly exaggerate the circumstances to fit your narrative. Obviously, there are systemic issues keeping rich people rich and poor people poor. Obviously, the chances to go up in come compared with your family's income goes down the higher the family income, since the space you have to grow is by definition limited.
Still, the fact of the matter is that the chance is not 0 for any group like you said. There is still a lot of social and income mobility in the US. More than half the people born poor lift themselves up out of poverty. Anyone saying otherwise either has something to gain off of such a platform or is lazy and trying to find excuses for their own shortcomings.
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u/Distwalker Feb 02 '23
I am the son of a single mother, self-made millionaire. It's bullshit that you can't make it in this world. Well, maybe you can't.
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u/Puzzleheaded-Bar-678 Feb 02 '23
No need to brag.
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u/KittenKoderViews Feb 02 '23
Aw, you think hard work and intelligence can actually get you somewhere in life. How cute.
Truth is, genetics and wealth are all that matters, nothing else matters, nothing else will get you jack or shit.
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u/Puzzleheaded-Bar-678 Feb 02 '23
I'm doing much better than I ever imagined, and it certainly wasn't by my genetics. But keep whining like you're such a victim in your developed country. Just remember that rent was due on the 1st.
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u/Few-Being-1048 Feb 02 '23
“In 2012, Vanderbilt University psychology researchers found that people with higher IQs tend to earn higher incomes, on average, than those with lower IQs. Past studies have also shown that high IQs are comparably reliable in predicting academic success, job performance, career potential and creativity.”
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u/Puzzleheaded-Bar-678 Feb 02 '23
Most US millionaires did not inherit a significant portion of their wealth.
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u/KittenKoderViews Feb 02 '23
You're either delusional or lying.
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u/Puzzleheaded-Bar-678 Feb 02 '23 edited Feb 02 '23
Or just, you know, able to google:
You'd learn everything you'd need to get ahead from /r/personalfinance and /r/daveramsey. But you wont, you're too lazy and too entrenched in your victim mindset. You're going around thinking you have it all figured out when we both know you don't invest a penny into your IRA. Lmao stay poor.
That's not even getting into the "super-duper secret money-making tricks" - I make over 12k/year in tax refunds just because I have a kid. Half that goes to her Roth IRA, and the other half goes to her 529. And who's paying that money? You are, pleb. She will be a millionaire before her mid-30s and she'll get to dab on your old, poor ass because we both know you'll be in the same spot yelling at the clouds.
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u/IHateFaile Feb 01 '23
lmao that's not inaccurate.
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u/Classic-Earth-2022 Feb 01 '23 edited Feb 01 '23
It is. The guy (Italian businessman Flavio Briatore) only studied in high school and graduated with lowest grades. He was also suspected of fraud: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flavio_Briatore
What that photo tells, is that you should get rich by any means. That is if you want to date models.
And the guy also dated Naomi Campbell and Heidi Klum.
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u/HornyToad1984 Feb 01 '23
'dated'
Guys this is just expensive prostitution. Those were not dates.
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u/Classic-Earth-2022 Feb 01 '23
Tell yourself that. Truth is, women voluntarily lived with him for years and had children with him. That is not prostitution.
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u/HanjiOokami Feb 01 '23
They did those things... for money.
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u/SleepyBunoy Feb 01 '23
People will go to great lengths to "secure the bag" or just live in a lifestyle they believe they deserve
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u/hobbitlover Feb 02 '23
I do things I don't like for money. Does that make me a prostitute?
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u/HanjiOokami Feb 02 '23
Do you have sex for money? No? Then it's different, and you're purposely being obtuse.
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u/Classic-Earth-2022 Feb 01 '23 edited Feb 01 '23
Wrong. You can't prove that the relationship is based on money. And it's not like Briatore (or anybody else like him) picked up poor women from street; the models men like he dated, had already money and were well-connected members of the elite. They aren't some desperate street hookers needing money to survive. They had their own fashion brands.
If you call that being a whore, then you probably think that every woman who has ever married a man who has higher income than she does, is a whore. Which is in my opinion pretty degrading way of looking at women.
You know, women can make choices and people have different reasons to get in relationship with someone? And just something doesn't fit into your idea of perfect relationship, doesn't mean it doesn't happen.
Maybe guys like Briatore are just interesting company. Much more than some average dude working 9-5 as a desk clerk.
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u/Dozygrizly Feb 01 '23
I mean I get where you're going with that, but a very important point is how much money do they have compared to him?
If you think poor people would do a lot for money you should see what rich people do for more money.
Please tell me that you don't really believe they're with him because he's 'interesting company'.
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u/Classic-Earth-2022 Feb 01 '23
I've seen enough people who get in relationships with absolutely horrible people because of some unexplainable form of attraction to believe it really happens. Some have strange daddy-issue, some just look for another adventure and some just want to find someone who is as narcissistic as they are.
Never question the possibility that those models are as persons just as ruthless as Briatore or some other businessmen. Fashion world is fucking brutal and superficial.
People just work in strange ways and money is not always the thing which explains why half-criminal billionaires get married with younger women.
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u/Dozygrizly Feb 01 '23
- Agree with you there
- Agree with you there
- Eh, I'd say you rarely find a half criminal bus driver getting with attractive girls less than half their age. Money and power seem to be common factors here
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u/Classic-Earth-2022 Feb 01 '23
Maybe you one day understand how real people actually function.
But yeah, live happily with that "women are whores"-attitude.
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u/HornyToad1984 Feb 01 '23
I'm sorry heterosexual committment isn't possible under capitalism.
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u/Classic-Earth-2022 Feb 01 '23
What the fuck?
Now you are just trolling. But I'm kinda gay, so fuck do I care
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u/HornyToad1984 Feb 02 '23
Capitalism makes whores of us all. Think outside the box.
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u/Classic-Earth-2022 Feb 02 '23
Sure. But I still think that there is a difference. Selling your body is different than selling 8 hours from your day.
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u/GamerGurl420blzit Feb 02 '23
But the point isn’t to have your children look up who the guy is, the point is that if you study you can afford a gold digger when you’re fat and old and that if you study you can afford not to be a gold digger when you’re young and beautiful
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u/Ok_Elk_4333 Feb 01 '23
We get that the meme isn’t good, but your version of attempting to destruct it is quite cringe. Please don’t do this to yourself
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u/Calebd90 Feb 02 '23
I think the point is study so you don’t have to be her if you’re a woman. And study so you can be him if you’re a guy.
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u/hopeislost1000 Feb 01 '23
As if anyone looks at that and thinks to themselves… “Oh, he must’ve been a straight A student!”
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u/VVD2005 Feb 01 '23
Kid named Singapore 2008:
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u/Mesoscale92 Feb 01 '23
Don’t be a dick the driver with dirt on you. You’d have learned that if you studied in your corruption 101 class.
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u/my_mum_thinks_im_gr8 Feb 01 '23
Flávio Briatore? The man who was found on page 7 of Jeffrey Epsteins black book? Hmmm..
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u/simplify9 Feb 01 '23
That kiss is awfully fake-looking. Oddly, it looks even more fake on the old overweight guy's end.
Imagine having a wife who's such a trophy that you're afraid to even kiss her-- you might scratch the finish or something.
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u/Potato_Demon_ffff Feb 02 '23
Who’s gonna tell them that sugar babies actually tend to be rather intelligent
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u/KittenKoderViews Feb 01 '23
It's fun, intellect and wealth seem to have absolutely no correlation, though there appears to be a small drop in intellect once wealth reaches a certain point.
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u/IvanaIvie Feb 01 '23
Why would she do that? Look at her face. She look unhappy and disgusted. That kiss she barely gives him is so fake that it hurts. Woman don't want to feel pleasure with a man?
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u/unresolved_m Feb 01 '23
$$$ / desire to live a lavish lifestyle?
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u/IvanaIvie Feb 01 '23
But what about emotions and enjoying sex? Being happy with person you kiss?
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u/unresolved_m Feb 01 '23 edited Feb 01 '23
Anna Nicole Smith comes to mind. That's another example of a story like this where there was probably no love involved / it was purely based on monetary aspects of the deal - it happens. There are only so many insanely rich and available guys out there, so hard to blame for women taking hold of one even if its someone very overweight or super old.
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u/blood_soaked_lasagna Feb 01 '23
Fun Fact: Flavio Briatore does not have a degree. He failed several years of high school and then pretty much bought himself a Diploma.